Why can’t Christian politicians behave like Christians?
Mike Huckabee, the governor of Arkansas, is campaigning to be the standard bearer for the religious right in the upcoming presidential primaries — sort of the Gary Bauer of 2008, I guess.
However, in his standard stump speech, Huckabee, who is also a Baptist minister, makes an unusually personal — and un-Christian — reference to a 25-year member of the House of Representatives who happens to be gay:
– Rev. Huckabee
“Let’s face it,” he recently told a crowd of Christian conservatives in Iowa… “In our lifetimes, we’ve seen our country go from ‘Leave It to Beaver’ to ‘Beavis and Butt-head,’ from Barney Fife to Barney Frank, from ‘Father Knows Best’ to television shows where father knows nothing.”
It’s interesting that Republicans feel free to say nasty things in about gay people today just as they openly made racist slurs back in the day. Equating Rep. Frank to Beavis and Butthead is beyond the pale — and, frankly, I don’t think Jesus would approve.
I retired and moved to Arkansas 5 yrs ago, and have to live with the fact that this ass hole is the Governor. I want to clearly state that I did not vote for him, nor will I vote for a crazy Republican in this falls election either.
Mrr. Huckabee need to take Jesus off of his sleeve and put him back in his heart where he belongs.
Oh wait, Huckabee doesn’t have a heart.
Those darn Repugs!
Bob
could you make the type bigger? Look at all the mistakes I made!
A man of God is one who concerns himself with the humanity of his fellows. That whole interaction speaks to that man’s God to describe possible resolution within the scope of each one’s daily life. The result is never simply the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, what have you. The only result may be the continued search for answers. The support from a God is possibly only sustenance or “manna” to be able to draw the string of experiences together as they develop some sense. At least these are some thoughts on the real value of anyone having and exercising a relationship with “God”. If Governor has an adgenda, it may be clear what he means by his comments, but if he does not it is not clear, at least to me, that their is any real intention in his comments.
I, too, am from Arkansas. Huckabee couldn’t be re-elected here if he was eligible to run. He is a well documented liar, a trait that seems to permeate Republicanism at all levels.
To paraphrase Ghandi, I love your Christianity but am not very impressed with Christians. Huckabee is not serving God, he is serving Huckabee.
Mr. Huckabee needs to be asked, pointedly (and repeatedly if necessary): What did you mean about Barney Frank?
The life and teachings of Jesus Christ, which form the basis of Christianiyu, are contained in the New Testamant. There is not one word, not one word, in the New Testamant against or even about homosexuality.
Jesus was loving and eminently inclusive. The only anger he showed was directed toward the pharisees, the religious right of that time, for their arrogance, their hatefulness, their prejudice, and their hypocricy. The religious right today embodies everything un-Christian.
The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are given in the New Testamant of the Bible. There is not one word, not one word, in the New Testamant against or even about homosexuality.
Jesus Christ was loving and inclusive. What angered him more than anything else were the pharisees, the religious right of that time, who were arrogant, intolerant, hateful and hypocritical.
The religious right, then as now, embodies everything un-Christian.
That’s why these christian are always proclaiming that they are christian. They have to keep saying that because of their bad behavior behind closed doors. They have to convince everyone else how proper they are.
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For Bush&co God+ and money$ go together like a horse&carriage.
That’s why Ralph Reed and Grover Norquist are both White House Advisors.
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Huckabee would prefer Barney Fife to Barney Frank? He’s got no problem - Barney Fife is in the Oval Office.
Huckabee is just really jealous of Frank’s success… that’s it in a nutshell.
They seem to get by all the time with talk Why do they think only Reps. are christions? The american people have short memories it seems They have forgotten how nice it was when we had a nice America where evryone isthe same is God going to love one person over another> Iremember a sonr Yellow Black or Whie they are perious in his sight L et him judge on gay or what shame on the Reps.
I have a new strategy for the mid term elections–nothing. Given Katherine Harris, and now this, along with the new books by Bruce Bartlett, Fukiyama, and Kevin Phillips, it appears the stage is being set for the Republicans to do what they did under Richard Nixon–implode from their own hubris and stupidity.
Conservatives just can’t seem to jump ship fast enough these days. I say let’s sit back and watch the show.
Bill Chickering
Yeah, too bad Barney Fife moved on to head Homeland Security while Beavis shares the Oval Office with Butthead.
Well, I would like to say the author of this article is, well, an idiot. I live in Mass, so I know all about barney. I actually like Barney Frank as Well. He has done Massachusettes a great deal. But reading that qoute from Governor Huckabee, I saw nothing racist toward his sexuality. Absolutley not one workd was mentioned of him being gay, and he wasnt even reffered to a gay person. Seems like he just disagrees with his opinions, and compared him to dumb television characters. Some guy decided, hey, Frank is gay, so Huckabee must be homosexual. Sorry, not the truth here.
Also, religion has nothing to do with people. You cant tie someone’s bad behavior, or opinons to their religion. Religion doesnt teach people to hate each other, or to be assholes, it just is what it is. A faith. But as soon as someone opens their mouth wth the wrong opinion, the unpolitically correct phrase, it is blamed on religion. Dahmer was probably a Christian too, but I doubt that had anything to do with why he acted the way he did.
(”The life and teachings of Jesus Christ, which form the basis of Christianiyu, are contained in the New Testamant. There is not one word, not one word, in the New Testamant against or even about homosexuality.”
Comment by abgie | Mar. 25, 2006, 7:58 pm |
) READ YOUR BIBLE!!
Rampant homosexuality is an indication of serious degradation in a society. The sin of homosexuality in Sodom and Gomorrah reached the point where God said “their sin is very grievous” and “is waxen great” (Gen. 18: 20, 19: 13). They were so depraved and steeped in homosexuality that any male stranger was in danger (Gen. 19: 5, “may know them” means to know sexually). Jude wrote that “Sodom and Gomorrah…giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” (Jude 7). The stench of their wickedness was so great that God destroyed these people with brimstone and fire out of heaven (Gen. 19: 24, notice Jude’s statement regarding “eternal fire,” Jude 7). In describing the degenerate state of the Gentile world of Paul’s day, he described the sin of homosexuality. “Men with men working that which is unseemly,” Paul stated (Rom. 1: 27). “…Even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature,” Paul further explained (vs. 26). Paul referred to such homosexual relationships as “vile affections” (vs. 26).
Practicing homosexuals will not go to heaven. I listened in amazement a while back as a panel of ministers from several different denominations were questioned regarding homosexuality. Every preacher on the television panel said homosexuality is not even mentioned in the Bible. When pressed, they replied “Jesus did not mention homosexuality” (see I Cor. 14: 37, arraying Jesus against Leviticus 18: 22, etc., is the height of blasphemy). “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God,” Paul wrote, “do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals…shall inherit the kingdom of God” (I Cor. 6: 9, 10, NASV).
Beloved, the argument that homosexuals cannot help themselves because they were born the way they are is not correct. God would not hold homosexuals responsible if they had a genetic aberration that they could not help. The good news is that homosexuals, just as all sinners, can be saved if they will repent (involving desisting their sinful life style) of their sins and accept God’s provision of grace (I Cor. 6: 9-11).STUDY YOUR BIBLE
God will forgive YOU!
Christian: There are close to 70 abominations listed in the Bible. Here are a few that most people have engaged in:
Next you will say that Christ issued a “new covenant” that excused Christians from these sins. I will challenge you to provide scripture that shows he exempted all these sins except having gay sex.
We have learned that most people who are obsessed by their hatred of gay people are in fact tortured by their own repressed sexuality. This makes sense because people who are comfortable with their sexual identity are never obsessed with other types of sexuality.
You should take a moment and reflect on your true motives and exactly what it is that drives the hatred you feel toward gays.
You may think you took the time to write the above warning in order to save us from ourselves but really gay people are a very small part of society. If you were really concerned about sinners and the ruination they bring down on America, you should go after adulterers. After all, adultery was not excused in the new covenant, and it is one of the prohibitions in the 10 Commandments, whereas there is no Commandment-level prohibition against being gay.
More importantly, it is adultery that breaks up marriages and families, not gay sex.
If you are truly not a hypocrite about the morals of others, you will advocate that adulterers lose the right to remarry and that they and their unmarried opposite-sex partners be given the same abusive treatment gay couples are given in most states: they may not visit them in hospitals, may not receive their employee benefits, may not inherit from them, etc.
If you choose to remain hypocritical then God may may forgive us but will he not forgive you:
“From Where Does Saving Faith Come?”
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There are many ways people claim to have obtained saving faith. Some declare their faith came as a result of a better felt than told feeling. Some even claim to have received a special revelation directly from God or an angel. Salvation comes through faith in Christ, however, faith in Christ comes only through the inspired word of God. The inspired apostle declared, “faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.” (Rom. 10: 17)
Just before His ascension, Jesus committed His gospel of salvation to men that it might be proclaimed. (Mk. 16:15-16). From that time never has an individual been converted unto God unless it was through hearing and obeying the gospel of Christ proclaimed by men.
This can be seen over and over in the examples of New Testament conversions. In Acts 8:27-ff God sent an angel to tell Philip, a preacher of the gospel, to go to an Ethiopian man that he might hear the gospel. Note that God did not send the message of salvation directly to the Ethiopian, but instructed the preacher to go proclaim the message to him. When the Ethiopian heard the gospel he obeyed by being baptized.
In Acts 10:1-ff we have the example of Cornelius’ conversion. This time God sends an angel to the man who is in need of the gospel rather than the preacher. Notice, however, the angel did not proclaim the gospel message to Cornelius, but tells him to send for Peter. Peter then comes and proclaims words by which he could be saved (Acts 11:14).
We are reminded of the question, “How then shall they call upon Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent?” (Rom.10:14-15). The answer is, “They cannot”– the reason being, “faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.” (Rom. 10:17).
In fact if the Lord Himself met a man on the road, He would not directly tell that individual what to do to be saved. To some this may seem far fetched at first. However, we have a clear cut case of this very thing recorded in Acts 22:6-10.
Saul of Tarsus, the man who would later refer to himself as “the chief of sinners,” (1Tim. 1:15) is on his way to Damascus to arrest Christians and bring them to Jerusalem that they might be imprisoned or punished. Saul has a bright light that flashes from heaven around him as Jesus speaks to him. Saul then ask Jesus, “What shall I do Lord?” (Acts 22:7-10).
What you have here is Jesus Christ Himself in direct contact with a sinner. If ever there was a time after the great commission when the Lord could have stepped in and told a sinner what to do to be saved, this was it. But Jesus simply told him to “Arise and go on into Damascus; and there you will be told all that has been appointed for you to do.” In Acts 22:12-16 we learn that God sent a man, Ananias, declaring, “And now why do you delay? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.” If any are converted today it will be the result of them hearing, believing and obeying the gospel of Christ proclaimed by faithful men (Rom. 10:13-17; Heb 1:1-2).
Some may ask, “But what about the man on the desert island who lives and dies never knowing anything about Christ or His gospel?” Paul explains, that those who do not have a written revelation will be held accountable for what they are able to know and understand concerning God (Rom. 1:18-20).
God will judge each according to the what they have access to know and understand about Him. Those of us who have access to His gospel of His Son Jesus will be judged by it (Jn. 12:48; 2 Thess. 1;7-9). We have the responsibility to read, study, and obey this message that has been proclaimed and written by inspired men. Saving faith comes by no other means.
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We are reminded of the question, “How then shall they call upon Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent?” (Rom.10:14-15). The answer is, “They cannot”– the reason being, “faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.” (Rom. 10:17).
JON, STUDY YOUR BIBLE..
What a bunch of hooey. Get a grip, Christian. You are in way too deep.
Besides, the hate campaign against gays is damaging your religion:
Poll: Intolerance Drives Up Christians’ Negatives among Young People
Speaking from the left, while I am sure Huckabee intended to insult the gay community by equating Barney Frank with Barney Fife, I am not sure there is that much of a difference. Neither seems to get gender diversity and the gender-queer experience within the identity spectrum.
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OKAY: 1) King James was a closet homo himself, and his internalized phobia is reflected in the (FALSE) translations in that version of the bible. 2) The sin in Sodom and Gomorrah was NOT homosexuality, but rape and inhospitable behavior, which was consider a grave sin at the time. 3) Many many of the other passages in the bible were also not about same gender love, but were about illicit behavior, like public sex, rape, etc.
But what do you expect from a bunch of illiterates who think you only need to read one book in like?!?
Oh, and your bibles have been corrupted, because I HAVE read it from cover to cover, numerous times, and nowhere in the new testement does is say “effeminate and homosexuals” shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Someone in your religion has been adding words (and I may say, LIES) to the text.