Comments on: Osteen In-Law Preacher Who Canceled Gay Vet’s Funeral Aligns with Notorious AFA Hate Group http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-professional-homophobe-org/ News and Opinion on Politics and Media Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:39:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Carlea http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-professional-homophobe-org/comment-page-1/#comment-555326 Carlea Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:43:25 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-profession-hompobe-group/#comment-555326 Every living person is a child of God's and deserve a proper homegoing and burial, but funeral services should be done with some level of Christian reserve and tact. I don't think a stripper's funeral should have video of her act or a child molester's service have inappropriate photo's of his victims, nor should a gay funeral have visual displays of his sinful sexual preference or personal life. I believe a paster has an obligation to uphold Christian values, even regarding funeral services. To allow all kinds of inappropriate displays would raise questions of is value system. I don't know the details, I only read this blog, but I'm sure there is more information than we know about this situation, but based on this, perhaps a compromise or pastorial consultation would have been a better option than cancelling the funeral and causing the family more grief. The road is straight and narrow, but clearly lit, and taking the popularity low road will not get you to your destination. Every living person is a child of God’s and deserve a proper homegoing and burial, but funeral services should be done with some level of Christian reserve and tact. I don’t think a stripper’s funeral should have video of her act or a child molester’s service have inappropriate photo’s of his victims, nor should a gay funeral have visual displays of his sinful sexual preference or personal life. I believe a paster has an obligation to uphold Christian values, even regarding funeral services. To allow all kinds of inappropriate displays would raise questions of is value system. I don’t know the details, I only read this blog, but I’m sure there is more information than we know about this situation, but based on this, perhaps a compromise or pastorial consultation would have been a better option than cancelling the funeral and causing the family more grief. The road is straight and narrow, but clearly lit, and taking the popularity low road will not get you to your destination.

]]> By: Madison http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-professional-homophobe-org/comment-page-1/#comment-446358 Madison Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:16:42 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-profession-hompobe-group/#comment-446358 There you have it. The church that is proud to hate. And it's not hatred of the sinner. I'll bet the church has a funeral for an adulterer every other day. But adultery -- which is forbidden in the 10 Commandments -- is okay with the church leaders. They only reserve their hatred for gay people -- and the prohibitions against gay sex are in the parts of the Old Testament that Jesus rescinded with his New Covenant. Sorry, I know. For Christians, "facts" simply do not matter. There you have it. The church that is proud to hate.

And it’s not hatred of the sinner. I’ll bet the church has a funeral for an adulterer every other day. But adultery — which is forbidden in the 10 Commandments — is okay with the church leaders.

They only reserve their hatred for gay people — and the prohibitions against gay sex are in the parts of the Old Testament that Jesus rescinded with his New Covenant.

Sorry, I know. For Christians, “facts” simply do not matter.

]]> By: Sam http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-professional-homophobe-org/comment-page-1/#comment-446350 Sam Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:35:32 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-profession-hompobe-group/#comment-446350 Actually, I HAVE seen the photos. The NEWS posted them. I go to this church. And actually yes, they were planning on putting those photos in the service, also with a openly gay minister and choir. We at HighPoint were unaware he was gay until a few days before the funeral. If it had been a simple burial, and they hadn't felt the need to bring their homosexuality into it, we wouldn't have had a problem. Actually, I HAVE seen the photos. The NEWS posted them. I go to this church. And actually yes, they were planning on putting those photos in the service, also with a openly gay minister and choir. We at HighPoint were unaware he was gay until a few days before the funeral.

If it had been a simple burial, and they hadn’t felt the need to bring their homosexuality into it, we wouldn’t have had a problem.

]]> By: Art http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-professional-homophobe-org/comment-page-1/#comment-376887 Art Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:34:11 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-profession-hompobe-group/#comment-376887 Eddie: Have you seen the photos and video? NO, because NONE of *your* fantasies you describe were to be part of the ceremony. Eddie: Have you seen the photos and video? NO, because NONE of *your* fantasies you describe were to be part of the ceremony.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-professional-homophobe-org/comment-page-1/#comment-375354 Eddie Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:46:04 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-profession-hompobe-group/#comment-375354 Ignorance is running rampant these days. The funeral didnt get cancelled because the church found out he was gay, but on the way the service was to be ran. I’m pretty confident by looking at your website that most of your readers would not find it a problem if the greeter that met you at the door of the memorial was kissing men on the mouth as they walked in. How about the open mic where ex lovers could come up and relish about the good ole days! Maybe the photo of one man with his hands on another mans crotch that was to be on the video screen in the church!….need I go on??? There was no discrimination, it was church policy. This type of material wouldnt be allowed in our publicly funded schools, and there should be no issue with the decision that HPC made. Ignorance is running rampant these days. The funeral didnt get cancelled because the church found out he was gay, but on the way the service was to be ran. I’m pretty confident by looking at your website that most of your readers would not find it a problem if the greeter that met you at the door of the memorial was kissing men on the mouth as they walked in. How about the open mic where ex lovers could come up and relish about the good ole days! Maybe the photo of one man with his hands on another mans crotch that was to be on the video screen in the church!….need I go on??? There was no discrimination, it was church policy. This type of material wouldnt be allowed in our publicly funded schools, and there should be no issue with the decision that HPC made.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-professional-homophobe-org/comment-page-1/#comment-375285 Dennis Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:22:12 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-profession-hompobe-group/#comment-375285 These people are all charlatans and snake-oil salesmen. I daresay that neither Joel Osteen nor his brother in law know the first thing more about religious or moral values than any of the rest of us. But they are very good at what they do, which is to to relieve people of their money. God love then, you have to admire a good con man. The decision to deny a funeral service to decorated Navy veteran who just happened to be gay is nothing less than immoral. If there is a God, I believe he will judge these people harshly for abuses committed in His name. These people are all charlatans and snake-oil salesmen. I daresay that neither Joel Osteen nor his brother in law know the first thing more about religious or moral values than any of the rest of us. But they are very good at what they do, which is to to relieve people of their money. God love then, you have to admire a good con man. The decision to deny a funeral service to decorated Navy veteran who just happened to be gay is nothing less than immoral. If there is a God, I believe he will judge these people harshly for abuses committed in His name.

]]> By: www.buzzflash.net http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-professional-homophobe-org/comment-page-1/#comment-374441 www.buzzflash.net Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:23:41 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/16/osteen-in-law-aligns-with-profession-hompobe-group/#comment-374441 <strong>Osteen In-Law Preacher Who Canceled Gay Vet’s Funeral Aligns with Notorious AFA Hate Group...</strong> Under fire because he canceled the funeral of Navy Gulf War veteran after learning that the vet was gay, Gary Simons, the megachurch preacher whose brother-in-law is Joel Osteen, head of the powerful, uber-wealthy evangelical family that operates the 3... Osteen In-Law Preacher Who Canceled Gay Vet’s Funeral Aligns with Notorious AFA Hate Group…

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