When you hear the sound bites from George W. Bush’s speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars today in which he compares his botched war in Iraq to the Vietnam war, think about what he was doing while thousands of U.S. soldiers were wounded and killed in the jungles of Southeast Asia.
Bush is in effect saying that Vietnam could have been won if only we’d stayed there longer — that winning would have only required a few tens of thousand more lives lost — other than his own, of course.
As is well known, Bush’s elite status entitled him to a cushy berth in a “champagne unit” of the Texas Air National Guard. Associates from that era remember young Bush as being preoccupied with doing drugs, driving drunk and chasing women. There are rumors he seriously damaged a fighter jet while taxiing it on a runway while hungover. And there is strong circumstantial evidence he was discharged less than honorably after failing to show up for a series of Pentagon-mandated drug tests.
With that in mind, here is how Bush today, rewriting and politicizing the war he sat out:
The tragedy of Vietnam is too large to be contained in one speech. So I’m going to limit myself to one argument that has particular significance today. Then as now, people argued the real problem was America’s presence and that if we would just withdraw, the killing would end…
In 1972, one antiwar senator put it this way: “What earthly difference does it make to nomadic tribes or uneducated subsistence farmers in Vietnam or Cambodia or Laos, whether they have a military dictator, a royal prince or a socialist commissar in some distant capital that they’ve never seen and may never heard of?” A columnist for The New York Times wrote in a similar vein in 1975, just as Cambodia and Vietnam were falling to the communists: “It’s difficult to imagine,” he said, “how their lives could be anything but better with the Americans gone.” A headline on that story, date Phnom Penh, summed up the argument: “Indochina without Americans: For Most a Better Life.”
The world would learn just how costly these misimpressions would be. In Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge began a murderous rule in which hundreds of thousands of Cambodians died by starvation and torture and execution. In Vietnam, former allies of the United States and government workers and intellectuals and businessmen were sent off to prison camps, where tens of thousands perished. Hundreds of thousands more fled the country on rickety boats, many of them going to their graves in the South China Sea.
Three decades later, there is a legitimate debate about how we got into the Vietnam War and how we left. There’s no debate in my mind that the veterans from Vietnam deserve the high praise of the United States of America. (Applause.) Whatever your position is on that debate, one unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America’s withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms like “boat people,” “re-education camps,” and “killing fields.”
There was another price to our withdrawal from Vietnam, and we can hear it in the words of the enemy we face in today’s struggle — those who came to our soil and killed thousands of citizens on September the 11th, 2001. In an interview with a Pakistani newspaper after the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden declared that “the American people had risen against their government’s war in Vietnam. And they must do the same today.”
In effect, Bush is saying that Vietnam would have turned out better if only we’d stayed longer. But how much longer, Mr. Bush? Over 50,000 U.S. troops died in Vietnam. How many more lives — other than your own, of course — were worth sacrificing for a lost cause?
Unsurprisingly, Bush takes no responsibility for the fact that it was his decision, and his alone, to invade Iraq, or that it is his fault that our options there today range from awful to horrendous.
Bush wants to share the blame for this misbegotten war, particularly with Democratic senators who voted for the authorization that he demanded. But this is his war, and the horrors that may come after we leave Iraq, whenever it happens, were set in motion by George W. Bush when he decided to drive the United States into another Vietnam-like quagmire.
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I just don’t follow the implied argument you seem to make here. The lead information I believe is there to set a tone that Bush is not qualified to utter the word Vietnam. Then you provide a speech blurb that really doesn’t tie into the introductory information followed by a conclusion you’re asking me to leap to but unfortunately dont give a clear path to. On top of that, I agree with you on the misbegotten aspect of the conflict, but I’m pretty sure Bush was not alone in going to war - as both sides of the aisle voted for it. All in all - the spirit is easy to understand here, you just haven’t given a lot of meat to the argument. Challenge me with something other than the usual bashing and name calling.
Typical Liberal BS. Of course, you cannot and do not even attempt to refute any of Bush’s factual comparisons of what happened after the US pulled out of Vietnam and what will happen when we pull out of Iraq. But then again why would you when you don’t give two shits about anyone but yourself.
Poor poor Bobby. I feel sorry for you, all roped in by that liberal vs conservative crap. You probably don’t even know what the words mean. Truth is you don’t have to be either to see what a F-up GWB is. Anybody standing up for GWB must be an intellectual dwarf or a religous nut job.
If everyone who opposes the war is a left-winger, that means the country is about 70% liberal.
Bobby has forgotten about what happened in the war in Vietnam. Troop withdrawals began in 1968 and took five years to complete. There was no “rush to leave.”
Bush’s reference to the Khmer Rouge defies history as well. Without the ongoing occupation of Vietnam by US troops there would never have been a government in Cambodia controlled by the Khmer.
Incidentally, it was the Vietnamese army that overthrew the Khmer and put an end to the “killing fields,” over US protests in the UN that the Khmer was “legitimate.”
Also, Bush has forgotten that the 19 years the US was in Vietnam saw the deaths of about 10% of the population of the country, 58,000 US troop deaths and 300,000 wounded.
Still further, the corrupt and dictatorial South Vietnamese regime was one of the absolute worst governments ever propped up by the US. Mass killings of prisoners and civilians, torture, other war crimes, summary executions of suspects, sectarian violence and the like were regular occurrences.
It is indeed ironic that Bush, who used every resource at his command to avoid service in Vietnam during the war, is now using it to bolster his failed stay the course policy in Iraq.
Excerpt from Il Duchbag’s speech to the VFW 8/22/07 “The argument that America’s presence in Indochina was dangerous had a long pedigree. In 1955, long before the United States had entered the war, Graham Greene wrote a novel called, “The Quiet American.” It was set in Saigon, and the main character was a young government agent named Alden Pyle. He was a symbol of American purpose and patriotism — and dangerous naivete. Another character describes Alden this way: “I never knew a man who had better motives for all the trouble he caused.”
That young government agent was obviously a character model for Gee Dubya.
He went on to say…”Unlike in Vietnam, if we withdraw before the job is done, this enemy will follow us home. And that is why, for the security of the United States of America, we must defeat them overseas so we do not face them in the United States of America”
Now, unlike the official White House transcript above, Gee Dubya actually opened his sentence with “And like” not the “Unlike” in the transcript.
Now, what I recall after our withdrawl from Vietnam is that many did indeed follow us home. Some were women married to or knocked up by our servicemen fortunate enough to have survived the moosefuck that was the Vietnam War. Others were students, teachers, technicians, medical professionals and others who sought to rid themselves and their families from the horrors wrought by American intervention. Yea George, they followed us the fuck home.
If we leave this new neocon moosefuck that is operation enduring oil, or enduring propaganda, or enduring profits or whatever they choose to call it, they will not follow us home. They may follow YOU home George,to Crawford or your hideway in South America, and blow it all to kingdom come and most quiet,purposeful,thoughtful and patriotic Americans would stand up and cheer and yell Hallelulia! And praise for instant karma!
As a mere lad all of 22 years of age I spent one horrific year of my life in a place called Vietnam! After graduating from flight school I was presented my warrant officer bars, and wings and sent to that god awful place where I served with the 1st cav (air mobile) 229 air assault battalion taking troops into battle and extracting them while this moronic president was sitting on his ass….I have nothing but contempt for this war loving puke!
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Out of all the BoyKing’s atrocities, this one really stands out. What a hypocrite, what a bum — slime on two feet, his lies dripping like blood from a vampire’s lips…
MY GOD, HOW I HATE THE MAN!!!
What a Bush dong-toker who should be IMPEACHED for de-escalating on himself!
Bush needs to say *something* to muddy the waters and keep his desperate ball rolling. Lately, every speech is a hail mary pass, the foreign policy equivalent of “the dog ate my homework.”
At this point, all Bush is trying to do is stall the blame for the Iraq disaster long enough to get out of town, run off to Crawford, and emerge down the road as baseball commissioner or some kind of corporate fund manager.
Bush knows he screwed the pooch in Iraq but wants desperately to convince as many people as possible that he didn’t. As long as he has nutjobs like Michelle Malkin and Melanie Morgan ready to froth at the mouth in his defense, he’s got hope he can get out of town without having the blame for Iraq pinned squarely on him.
That’s the audience for his speeches. And those people don’t need accurate analogies or truthful evaluations of Iraq to keep going. All they need is some evidence that Bush wants to fight, so they can continue to fight.
To 70+% of the American people, Bush’s speeches are nothing more than stomuch gas. But to the people he’s talking to, they are their lifeblood. If Bush fights, they can fight. So Bush has to look like he’s still fighting, even if everything he has to say is total bombast and shite. His few remaining supporters demand it. Without them, he has no chance of escaping Washington without taking the full blame for the bloody, unstable, and disasterous mess he’s created.
It’s his fault. He just doesn’t want to own it……
Interesting to see him bring up Vietnam. The official line tends to be “they’re completely different wars!” Now it’s a new tactic perhaps in trying to convince the American people that it’s all going well in Iraq. Seems to be a rather desperate tactic, but desperate times call for desperate measures and all that.
Let this lying, traitorous, war criminal keep running his lying mouth. The more he does, the deeper hole he digs and the more of the 24% of Idiots who still like him get persuaded otherwise. Take a local phukup (couldn’t make money with an oil company…IN TEXAS!) and Make him President… and you have phuckup on a World Wide basis. One thing about it…if You are going to be a phuckup..be the Biggest one in the history of this Great Country. Way to go shrub…what an honor!
Everyone that I have met that is pro-war is a non-warrior! How about you, little bobby boy? Have any combat experience? I didn’t think so. I do, you wouldn’t like war once you were actually in it, trust me. Have you ever smelled death? It stinks, just like the smell all over GWB, a cowards coward.
Listen to Ozzy Osbourne’s (Black Sabbath) album-War Pigs is the name of the song. Then pull your head out of your fanny and quit watching FAUX News. Read a book or two, weenie!
Bush has a Logical argument..if your an idiot.
Speculation what nots and what ifs. Fine.
But what if there was no Vietnam war?
What if there was no Iraqi war?
Cause and effect are applicable to everything in life.
What if Bush was never born? Or overdosed on Coke?
Speculation is NEVER and justification for an ARGUMENT unless your trying to treat people like idiots!
But i could’ve bought stocks in Apple or IBM back in the 70’s. But because I didnt then, I should now?
“So I’m justified in bombing a country for what we did or did not do..or what might or might not have happened..after we did or didn’t leave or..invade..later. when I could’ve done it or not..so what I am doing..is for those reasons..or not.”
And now they have a 15m “freedom’s watch” budget that will use propaganda is this VERY CONTEXT.
Welcome to the end of your mind!
The mind-boggling aspect of his speech to the Veterans of Foreign War is how can a group of bona fide war veterans sit and listen to a superannuated frat boy pontificate about a war he avoided.
The VFW has less credibility than “Boy George.”
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what i dont understand is why bush wasnt hanged at the vfw,,,all you guys took an oath to protect the constitution from all enemies ,foriegn or ‘domestic’the oath does not say protect the country, the president the govenment or anything else but the constitution,bush should be hung by the neak until dead or shot against a wall,,hopefuly they will torture him on tv..this is from a combat infantry vet,,if you dont like it , go fuck youeself,,sincerly
It does not matter. Israel will never give Bush orders to leave Iraq. Israel will never give orders that Bush not lose another war in Iran.
The song and dance blather means less than nothing. We know all the real plans long in advance. Why waste people’s time pretending their are any options on the table.
The Wars for Israel continue until America is destroyed and turned into a 3rd world dumping ground of an American Union, with all its infrastructure sold off to the highest foreign bidder.
Israel gives the orders. Bush obeys.
If we want out of Iraq, send ambassadors to Israel and ask for them to call it off.
Viet Nam shoulda lasted longer.
Just long enuf to take jr. over there
in handcuffs, dump him in the jungle, and have a tiger eat him.
What good will listening to Black Sabbath’s War Pigs do? G.W. even told Ozzy that “Mom loves your tunes” at a whitehouse dinner. The song is supposedly shining a light on the reality - but it sure hasn’t prevented any wars now, has it?
It is slick the way he can talk like that and evade the responsibility for getting the US into a much worse defeat than Vietnam by doing a comparison between Iraq and Vietnam. Very slick indeed.
As usual Bush’s grasp of history is nil. I have seen this guy’s academic transcript. He majored in history at Yale, and got a C- average and it certainly shows.
Vietnam was managed by the US gvt better than people understand. Through use of the “covert” methods the US position in the world was maintained, and it was not an outright military defeat. Not so with this one.
I sat cussing reading Sun Tzu Art of War when he went in to Iraq. I knew what would happen. He violated all five of Sun Tzu’s requirements. The defeat will be spectacular no matter what they do now.
In an interview with a Pakistani newspaper after the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden declared that “the American people had risen against their government’s war in Vietnam. And they must do the same today.”
Is that the same interview in which Osama professed his innocence? You know, the interview we here in the USA never once saw in our MSM! Instead we were treated to the fat phoney Bin Laden video tape!
Where have the Booths or Oswalds been when you really need them? Jesus Christ this human turd product of anal sex 61 yrs ago when ms daddy stupidly didnt pull out in time from mr mommys asshole and the first true miraculous conception occured between his wimp sperm and her turd that farted out this spoiled rotten brat later drunken cokehead fratrat cheerleader who cut and run from playing football to keep from getting hurt or dirty the story of his worthless waste of space on this planet that he has tried in vain to destroy whill killing or maiming millions of innocents so non-chalantly living like a king on his toilet throne.
Yea lets play retro tyrant revisionist and revisit Nam the war he was chickenshit to enter and where 65,000 Americans died and millions wounded needlessly and pretend we could still be there with 100s of 1000s more dead or wounded GIs that would not be him or any Bush for that matter all for the sake of trying to rationalize the horrific blunder due eing a shit for brains fuckup all his life so he can salvage his selected presidency that Daddy continues to cry for since bubba Jeb will never be in the WH.
Selfishness know no bounds with all these Bush elite slimewad murdering war crimninals …
I was an M.P. in Saigon in 1968.I saw it for what it was—monumental stupidity facedown in its own puke.As bad as it was,it was like Stonewall Jackson’s Valley Campaign when compared to the indescribable idiocy of this Iraq debacle.Words fail. In ‘Nam the vaunted most powerful military machine in the world got it’s ass handed to it by a bunch of peasants armed with A.K.’s and RPG’s.In Iraq an even more supposedly powerful military machine is getting its ass handed to it again by a bunch of rag-tag militias armed with A.K.’s,RPG’s and some C-4.Why?Simple–the American political(corporate) establishment is too bloody stupid to stay home and mind it’s own business.
I’m sure George informed these brave veterans of how he was able to use his family connections to avoid going to Viet Nam by getting admitted to the Texas Air National Guard, despite scoring only 25 out of 100 on the aptitude test (that represents the lowest 5 percentile, by the way). I’m sure he also came clean about why he deserted his unit in Texas in 1972, when mandatory drug testing was put in place.
I hear next week Dick Cheney is going to speak at the National MADD convention and discuss his two drunk driving convictions.
George the Chickenhearted should
use a proper reference…such as
the holy christian crusades in the
Middle East…where god’s warriors
murdered all peoples of the Semitic
tribes…
And the beat goes on…….
Let us not forget the (likely) several million Vietnamese who perished as a direct consequence of that war. It is certain that many Vietnamese where persecuted after the war, or fled to escape persecution. But it is not clear that a communist takeover
All the comments are about the wars that the U.S. government has engaged in in the past 60-70 years. But stop and think about it. This government is based on military strength. Invade, conquer, and subjugate the native people.. What is happening today is nothing more then the expansion of the Anglo empire. I am a Native American Indian..
“It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.”
-William Tecumseh Sherman,
Union General, American Civil War
It never ceases to amaze me that whenever a discussion about going to war in Iraq comes up - those on the right always seem to mention that there were Democrats who voted for the war! Somehow, the implication is that there is shared responsibility for going! And perhaps there is! But what seems to get lost in the discussion is that this president - George W. Bush flat out misrepresented the facts in presenting his case for war! Who is more culpable, the person making a decision based on faulty information, or the person presenting the faulty information?
People seem to forget that the same companies we see today in Iraq,as Private Contractors also made a fortune in Vietnam.Kellog Brown and Root,had a very lucrative contract for dredging in Vietnam.GE,Pratt and Whitney,etc.make billions from any armed conflict,as they will find a way to sell arms to anyone with a dollar.Follow the money.The pipeline through Afghanistan started our war against the Taliban.We armed them against the Soviet occupation and then forgot about them until it came time for them to sign a contract for the pipeline from the Caspian Basin.I believe our comment to the Taliban was some thing like” We can either carpet you in gold or bombs.”when it looked like another oil company was going to get the contract.This kind of “negotiation” sure sounds like terroristic coercion to me.
The Central Banks have funded both sides of the largest conflicts during the 20th century.DuPont and Nobel of the coveted “Peace Prize” fame still hold the patents on most high explosives and make money on every shot fired.DuPont had factories in the US and Germany during WWII and were paid War Reperations for damage to their German factories after the war.
Civil wars in Africa have been exploited and fueled by arms sales to both sides of conflicts,and the UN World Bank then comes in and buys up what ever natural resources are left at a bargain.
Conflict and War is the main business of the Multinational Corporations,they owes no allegience to any country,and their only balance of justice is the Quarterly Balance Sheet.
Please pardon the spelling and other errors,I was educated in America.
Dear Audrey,
A great quote from the father of modern warfare.The real soldier always prays for peace.They know that Glory and Heroism,are only advertising tools.Soldiers start out with thoughts of glory and heroism,but end up with thoughts of horror and pain. Who said “Old men talk and young men die.”?It may go back to the Greeks or even earlier.
He might be right. If Vietnam had lasted longer with full American troop levels, Bush, Limbaugh, et al might not have been able to avoid getting sent to the war zone. Once in the war zone, there is a very good chance that someone of Bush’s intelligence would get himself killed. So if Vietnam had lasted longer, we might have been able to get Junior killed off in it. What could be better today than a world in which George W Bush’s bones are bleaching on some forgotten hill in Vietnam?
It looks more like they are trying to rewrite history. Viet Nam was mistake and we lost, get over it. Korea was mentioned, another mistake and no one has won there either. We function under a cease fire agreement with them. Unless we have another terror attack (soon) in the US (whether real or false flag) we will loose in the Middle East. This war will not end until the people stand up and refuse to fight the damn thing.
…the very best part of these articles are the comments from just good, solid American freedom lovers!!!
Did Bush mention how Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, or perhaps… peak oil?
Thanks for the history corrections Petra.
When first they suckered us into war
They promised it would be grand
We hear only the bugles at funerals now
Instead of a marching band
They claim we lost them Vietnam
Because we had no guts
This comes from valiant creampuffs
Who wouldn’t risk their butts
Hey America;
I have to agree with the author myself! I have evidence that through some connections with a friend of mine, who was CIA- Israeli soldier, Bush is one stupid numb nuts bastard that ought to be hung by his toes just like Moussolini by the whole crowd of the world. He is working for the Elite few in this world that financially opperated the war, and last time I heard, there is someone in his administration is a member of the Bilderburghs! It’s time we flush this bastard down the toilet along with his whole administration as well as quite a few members of the Senate, House, and members of Congress who went right along with him to bring this war for oil, money, and drugs. And by the way, when the world talks about tribunials about Bush, when is it going to happen? We are tired of his crap and one of these years, he’s not going to see the light of a jail sentence and all it’s going to take is a one bullet to finish him off for all the percussions he’s caused to kill alot of people! Almost 2 million people! Wouldn’t that consider now a mass murderer?
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Americans are the biggest bunch of whiners on the planet. The more you complain the louder the laughter grows in Washington. Whether you like or hate them, praise or berate them, you are still stuck with them. All your bitching and complaining and they in Congress will only give themselves another pay raise. So get out your kleenex’s pass it around as they write and approve more laws to keep the citizens in check. All your fear mongering has done in the last few years pretty much adds up to little if no change in the Whitehouse. In fact they work well under your protests like rats in a sewer. They feed off your tasty browned anger and drink your fear.
It was always a mystery to me how in patriotic America, draft-dodging Bush was re-elected over Vietnam veteran Kerry. Now fast forward: Bush must have been so ill advised and desperate to mention Vietnam, far less draw a comparison between Iraq and Vietnam. Can Rove’s lack of input be apparent so quickly?
Keep in mind the US public have been sold a sanitised version of the Vietnam (American) War. View the Robert McNamara interviews in the documentary “Fog of War”. Not that I buy everything he says, especially because of his duplicity over Israel’s murderous attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. McNamara claims the entire Vietnam War was unnecessary and the result on compound misunderstanding by both sides. Visit the war museums in Ho Chi Minh City as I have done. See the photographic evidence of US war crimes. US experts asked the questions, South Vietnamese did torturing. Bodies exhumed still tied with nails driven into their joints.
Vietnam and Iraq; the same faked justification to sell the lie to the American people. US involvement in Vietnam directly and indirectly led to the deaths of 5.5 million people. Just because the US couldn’t stay out of the internal affairs of other countries. Since 1945, the US has invaded or grossly interfered in the affairs of some 70 countries world. At first with some success as with Korea, but it went downhill after that.
Bush’s message: If Americans don’t fight the terrorists on their turf, they will follow us home. Well, the terrorists are home; 9/11 was an inside job. Watch the WTC 7 building fall at 5:20 p.m. on Sep 11.
When is Douglas Feith going to be arrested and imprisoned for using false Israeli intelligence filtered through his “Office of Special Plans” to the White House to justify the illegal, unconstitutional, preemptive war in Iraq. Is that pipeline to Haifa up and running yet?
Nothing against American soldiers.
The author’s comments are to be applauded. There is much speculation about Dubya’s dubious days in the Texas Air National Guard not to mention his continuation/non-continuation of service in Alabama. (Wait: He did have some dental work done. Cue “The Stars and Stripes Forever”). We must not forget, however, that it was Bush’s own words that most clearly expose him for the draft dodger he was. “I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes.” The quote is for real; As Yogi said, “You can look it up.”
I noticed there is still a smattering of Bush apologists among the entries. Some advice for them. George Orwell’s 1984 is often referred to, and rightfully so, when commenting on Bush and his Administration. But Orwell’s ANIMAL FARM shouldn’t be forgotten. In it, the sheep can be depended upon to bleat, “Four legs good, two legs bad” regardless of the circumstances. Bush apologists everywhere: That’s what you are, the sheep from ANIMAL FARM. Do everyone a favor and grow a brain! You’re redefining boredom.
2.8 million of us Vietnam Veterans served in combat in that nightmare of a war, you know the very same one that the ‘chicken hawk in chief’ now spouts his ‘pious’ bullshit about. The VFW fatcats applauding his latest lies need to check the history books that Georgie so unintelligently tried to quote (actually he just made up some more bullshit-or whoever did write ‘his’ imbecillic speech. Failed regime after failed regime was propped up by us real Vietnam Vterans in Vietnam, year after year, until finally the American public and world opinion forced Tricky Dick and his henchman Henry Kissinger to come up with the withdrawal plans to get all of our troops eventually the hell out of there.The ‘killing fields’that GWB made mere mention of were directly caused by insane U.S policy that allowed the Pol Pot and then the K.Rouge psychos to come to power Just look at Bush’s failed Iraq war with an incompetent at best Maliki government and the Iraqi parliment ‘on vacation’ while our U.S.troops continue to needlessly die for all the comparissons necessary between Johnson and Nixon Vietnam and Bush Iraq. Go to the Wall Georgie, and just maybe some cold hard reality will actually sink in to that very thick skull of yours.Semper Fi! Marchmarine17@optonline.net
I had to spend two years in ROTC to become an officer. Forunate son-of-a was given his butter bars (commision) on a gold platter after an undistinguished few weeks of basic traiing for airmen straight out of high school.
Just got back from Vietnam after three months of travelling around the country, it looks like the Vietnamese are doing a pretty good job of running their own country without the French,Japanese, Americans or Australians telling they what to do. They are developing some big off shore oil fields “White Tiger Oil Field” and will soon be exporting oil. The strange thing is the big international oil companies (French,U.S.British) told Vietnam that there were no large deposits of oil there, the Russians came in and found heaps of oil.
Wouldn’t G.W. Bush like to get his dirty hands on this oil, he may tell us that Osama is hiding on a P.T. boat in The Gulf of Tonkin and he may have to invade?
Seriously though isn’t funny how people like Bush are only too happy to send other people sons & daughters to war “to protect democracy”, why doesn’t he get his daughters to become nurses in the U.S. Army and do a bit of time in Iraq?
After all that is said and done how come this president is still up and running?
Will he and his henchmen ever be punished for their crimes committed like was Saddam Hussein? Talk is cheap.
“Those who ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it.”
The shrub probably never cracked a history book while in school so how would he know? Too drunk, too stoned and to busy chasing west Texas bimbos
and yet he has the gall to lecture us about ‘Nam. What a pice of rotting vomnit this miserable piece of shit is. As I live and breath, I have so much contempt for that stomach spew and the rest of the treasonous, perverted bush family.
What a joke, except the joke is on us and we are going to pay for it, not the elites who run the country and certainly not GWB.
The entire Whore House should be rounded up and hung in the Rose Garden! They are the real traitors to America!
God how I hate this administration, and anybody who still supports the bushevics need an education on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
My only hope is that Chaney will have a massive stroke and live out the rest of his wretched existance drooling over himself and gee dubya will end up isolated in his Columbian compound, afraid to go out for fear of getting his just reward.
Goddamn these bastards who have turned America into a police state!
drastic times do call for drastic measures..
if the “powers that be” are jailed and sentenced to death, possibly the “real” world would come together and unite as one..
there can be love and peace if we start on the right path before it gets too late to do that..
is it too late for us all people ???
You say it was Bush alone who decided to go to Iraq. I submit that it was not his decision. The US has been raping the third world for decades. Bush is a pawn in the international bankers’ plot to conglomerate all governments into one world government under their control. Look up the NAU, CFR, and the Trilateral Commission. Ron Paul is our best hope at overcoming these megalomaniacal bastards.
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My brother was in the one of the first waves that went to Vietnam in 1964. Thank god he came back, not the same but he did come back. GWB is an idiot and so are the people who voted for him. We should not be in Iraq, and we shouldn’t have been in Vietnam. And everyone of the VFW that were at his speech should have gotten up, turned their backs and left. The real problem is us the citizens of the USA no matter how we bitch to our reps in Washington they just either don’t hear us or don’t care. Bush is not a leader he is someone who thinks he talks to GOD. Someone should tell him to read his bible because GOD would ignore his two faced, double sided bullshit. All he wants to do is blame other people in his admin, congress and senate because he doesn’t have the stones to take the rightful blame and responsibility to accept that he is the one who is sending other peoples sons, daughters, wives and husbands to what could possibly be their death. and what does he try to do stop our govt from increasing their less than poverty level pay saying its not necessary. while the families of these unselfish, loyal, strong and brave individuals fight for not only our freedom but his and his families as well. our service men and women’s families can lose their homes but hey GWB has his, they struggle to make ends meet, but he’s never had to worry how the electric, gas, water, food etc. was going to be paid. Just like Vietnam if our President had just let our Marines and other Services do what should have been done in the beginning the insurgents, taliban etc wouldn’t be a problem. Bring our people home, and let Iraq’s people deal with their country, their problems their own people leave us out of it. Put all the energy back where it belongs here in OUR COUNTRY, helping OUR PEOPLE. Stop sending billions for $$$ overseas where it can’t be found what happened to it. Rebuild New Orleans,put more in schooling our children, health care for the poor and working poor. all the things that this country stands for instead of giving away our money, jobs etc to everyone else. Lets take care of us first. I just again thank god my brother came back for Vietnam, my husband from Operation Desert Storm and my nephew from Afganastan. Semper Fi all my family and husband were Marines.