Comments on: Self Loathing: Voting Record of Secretly Queer Senator Is 100% Anti-Gay http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/ News and Opinion on Politics and Media Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:12:35 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Peace Arena » Craig’s `wide Stance’ Enters Lexicon http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-397596 Peace Arena » Craig’s `wide Stance’ Enters Lexicon Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:51:49 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-397596 [...] I hate to gloat while people are being publicly embarrassed, but really, Republicans just beg for it with their hypocrisy and sleazy politicking to save themselves at any cost to actual victims, or the country. Craig’s `wide Stance’ Enters Lexicon - New York Times BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Among the most famous excuses ever given for questionable behavior, ”I have a wide stance” must fall somewhere between the schoolchild’s favorite ”the dog ate my homework” and President Clinton’s ”I didn’t inhale.” [...] [...] I hate to gloat while people are being publicly embarrassed, but really, Republicans just beg for it with their hypocrisy and sleazy politicking to save themselves at any cost to actual victims, or the country. Craig’s `wide Stance’ Enters Lexicon – New York Times BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Among the most famous excuses ever given for questionable behavior, ”I have a wide stance” must fall somewhere between the schoolchild’s favorite ”the dog ate my homework” and President Clinton’s ”I didn’t inhale.” [...]

]]> By: Creative Loafing tampa » The Political Whore » Blog Archive » Afternoon Roundup http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379435 Creative Loafing tampa » The Political Whore » Blog Archive » Afternoon Roundup Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:19:05 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-379435 [...] The latest (allegedly) gay Republican scandal (newsies, note the byline of a former Trib reporter). And his 100% anti-gay voting record. And he quits the decidedly un-gay Romney campaign. And a newspaper knew but dropped the ball. [...] [...] The latest (allegedly) gay Republican scandal (newsies, note the byline of a former Trib reporter). And his 100% anti-gay voting record. And he quits the decidedly un-gay Romney campaign. And a newspaper knew but dropped the ball. [...]

]]> By: Jon Ponder http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379415 Jon Ponder Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:24:38 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-379415 tikiloungelizard, I take your point. But the way I gamed it out, from Craig's POV, considering the fact that he has an election coming up, going to trial was not an option. He and his people obviously gave this a lot of thought. Even before his guilty plea, they'd come up with a plan: He'd plead guilty, then they would sit on it as long as possible, which turned out to be about two and a half weeks. Immediately after the news came out, he would issue a statement saying that, in retrospect, the plea was a mistake. All of this with the hope of keeping the story off the front burner as much as possible. The "plea was a mistake" gambit worked. Rightwing outlets like the Washington Times went with that lead: Craig Says Guilty Plea Was a Mistake, instead of Craig Caught in Airport Fellatio Caper. If the case had gone to trial, Craig would have faced the prospect of the undercover cop presenting lurid details in testimony before a packed court room and the media. Even if crafty lawyering produced an not-guilty verdict, he'd take a much bigger hit politically from the public airing of down-low behavior. tikiloungelizard, I take your point. But the way I gamed it out, from Craig’s POV, considering the fact that he has an election coming up, going to trial was not an option. He and his people obviously gave this a lot of thought. Even before his guilty plea, they’d come up with a plan: He’d plead guilty, then they would sit on it as long as possible, which turned out to be about two and a half weeks. Immediately after the news came out, he would issue a statement saying that, in retrospect, the plea was a mistake. All of this with the hope of keeping the story off the front burner as much as possible.

The “plea was a mistake” gambit worked. Rightwing outlets like the Washington Times went with that lead: Craig Says Guilty Plea Was a Mistake, instead of Craig Caught in Airport Fellatio Caper.

If the case had gone to trial, Craig would have faced the prospect of the undercover cop presenting lurid details in testimony before a packed court room and the media. Even if crafty lawyering produced an not-guilty verdict, he’d take a much bigger hit politically from the public airing of down-low behavior.

]]> By: jim slaybaugh http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379413 jim slaybaugh Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:15:58 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-379413 An outspokenly homophobic republican politician caught soliciting homosexual pleasures in a "JOHN"..Just another day in murka... An outspokenly homophobic republican politician caught soliciting homosexual pleasures in a “JOHN”..Just another day in murka…

]]> By: tikiloungelizard http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379405 tikiloungelizard Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:35:01 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-379405 The only part of this piece that I would disagree with is "pleading guilty was the only option he had". While I have no doubt that he was doing what the prosecutor will claim he did, a good lawyer can find some squirm room with having his foot and then hand under the stall divider. In fact, a good lawyer can help you get away with almost anything: Just ask O.J. The only part of this piece that I would disagree with is “pleading guilty was the only option he had”. While I have no doubt that he was doing what the prosecutor will claim he did, a good lawyer can find some squirm room with having his foot and then hand under the stall divider. In fact, a good lawyer can help you get away with almost anything: Just ask O.J.

]]> By: owlathome http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379374 owlathome Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:14:53 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-379374 As for Sen. Craig's supposed "wide stance" while relieving himself, it's nothing compared to the mental gulf between what he thinks and what he does. As a gay man, I'm more and more convinced that some gays come out, others become Republicans. As for Sen. Craig’s supposed “wide stance” while relieving himself, it’s nothing compared to the mental gulf between what he thinks and what he does. As a gay man, I’m more and more convinced that some gays come out, others become Republicans.

]]> By: Morgan Adams http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379310 Morgan Adams Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:11:15 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-379310 I understand that hypocrisy is rampant, but I feel that at a certain level in society (i.e. Congress would probably be way way above the cut-off line) it would make sense to have some legal system for dealing with such extreme hypocrisy. I mean, people are elected to represent the people based on who they are, and who they are is a function of what they believe. In cases where such blatant misrepresentation has been made for personal gain, this in my mind is at least equivalent of lying to a judge or a court. It is lying to the people one has been elected to represent. I understand that hypocrisy is rampant, but I feel that at a certain level in society (i.e. Congress would probably be way way above the cut-off line) it would make sense to have some legal system for dealing with such extreme hypocrisy.

I mean, people are elected to represent the people based on who they are, and who they are is a function of what they believe. In cases where such blatant misrepresentation has been made for personal gain, this in my mind is at least equivalent of lying to a judge or a court.

It is lying to the people one has been elected to represent.

]]> By: www.buzzflash.net http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379230 www.buzzflash.net Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:43:22 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-379230 <strong>Self Loathing: Voting Record of Secretly Queer Senator Is 100% Anti-Gay...</strong> The voting record of Sen. Larry Craig, the Idaho Republican who outed himself this month by pleading guilty to naughty behavior in a men’s room, is as sad as his comment during the Lewinksy affair that Bill Clinton was "probably even a nasty, b... Self Loathing: Voting Record of Secretly Queer Senator Is 100% Anti-Gay…

The voting record of Sen. Larry Craig, the Idaho Republican who outed himself this month by pleading guilty to naughty behavior in a men’s room, is as sad as his comment during the Lewinksy affair that Bill Clinton was "probably even a nasty, b…

]]> By: nikolai http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379212 nikolai Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:50:48 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/08/27/self-loathing-craigs-homophobic-record/#comment-379212 The old "Tell a lie so big (almost) everyone will believe it", or, "Hide something by making it obvious". Typical Republican (nazi)psychology. Take your pick; Craig's thinking was one or the other, or even more twisted, BOTH. What a sick f*&#! The old “Tell a lie so big (almost) everyone will believe it”, or, “Hide something by making it obvious”. Typical Republican (nazi)psychology. Take your pick; Craig’s thinking was one or the other, or even more twisted, BOTH. What a sick f*&#!

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