Comments on: What Is Howard Dean Smoking? http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/10/10/what-is-howard-dean-smoking/ News and Opinion on Politics and Media Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:25:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jim (Aikane Leo) http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/10/10/what-is-howard-dean-smoking/comment-page-1/#comment-397868 Jim (Aikane Leo) Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:51:59 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/10/10/what-is-howard-dean-smoking/#comment-397868 Howard and the DNC still see this as "a fight among politicians" - the voters be damned. This from the political genius whose claim to fame was <a href="http://aikane.blogspot.com/search/label/2008%20Elections" rel="nofollow"> losing his ass in Iowa</a> four years ago. Howard and the DNC still see this as “a fight among politicians” – the voters be damned.

This from the political genius whose claim to fame was
losing his ass in Iowa four years ago.

]]> By: Buck http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/10/10/what-is-howard-dean-smoking/comment-page-1/#comment-397833 Buck Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:49:23 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/10/10/what-is-howard-dean-smoking/#comment-397833 Au contraire, Kenneth, the DNC did threaten to punish any candidate who campaigns in a "rogue state" by stripping him or her of any delegates they might pick up in the primary. That's why the five leading Dems signed the pledge, which allows them to fundraise in Florida, but not campaign. That's why several candidates' wives turned down an invitation to attend a garden party thrown by Mrs. Bill Nelson because it might have appeared to be a campaign event. They signed the pledge to avoid pissing off Dems in Iowa and New Hampshire, not out of any loyalty to their misguided party. This Republican-sponsored bill was passed by a Republican-controlled Senate, a Republican-controlled House, and signed by a Republican governor. Florida Democrats are being punished for our failure to stop something we had no ability to stop. Here's an excerpt from a Tampa Bay Online article that references the potential punishment: After the bill's passage, the DNC and the four states announced that the state party would lose all of our votes at the Democratic Convention and that they would take action against any Democratic presidential candidate who campaigned in Florida before Feb. 5, except for fundraisers. The states demanded that all major Democratic candidates sign the pledge that they would not campaign in Florida before Feb. 5, and advised all of the presidential candidates that they would punish any candidate who did not sign the pledge. Au contraire, Kenneth, the DNC did threaten to punish any candidate who campaigns in a “rogue state” by stripping him or her of any delegates they might pick up in the primary. That’s why the five leading Dems signed the pledge, which allows them to fundraise in Florida, but not campaign. That’s why several candidates’ wives turned down an invitation to attend a garden party thrown by Mrs. Bill Nelson because it might have appeared to be a campaign event. They signed the pledge to avoid pissing off Dems in Iowa and New Hampshire, not out of any loyalty to their misguided party.

This Republican-sponsored bill was passed by a Republican-controlled Senate, a Republican-controlled House, and signed by a Republican governor. Florida Democrats are being punished for our failure to stop something we had no ability to stop.

Here’s an excerpt from a Tampa Bay Online article that references the potential punishment:

After the bill’s passage, the DNC and the four states announced that the state party would lose all of our votes at the Democratic Convention and that they would take action against any Democratic presidential candidate who campaigned in Florida before Feb. 5, except for fundraisers.

The states demanded that all major Democratic candidates sign the pledge that they would not campaign in Florida before Feb. 5, and advised all of the presidential candidates that they would punish any candidate who did not sign the pledge.

]]> By: Kenneth Quinnell http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/10/10/what-is-howard-dean-smoking/comment-page-1/#comment-397628 Kenneth Quinnell Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:37:01 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/10/10/what-is-howard-dean-smoking/#comment-397628 Last time I checked, there were no penalties from the DNC for campaigning in Florida and Michigan. That whole thing came from a voluntary pledge signed by the candidates with the early states, and it is those states that would do any punishing, if they were to do it. Last time I checked, there were no penalties from the DNC for campaigning in Florida and Michigan. That whole thing came from a voluntary pledge signed by the candidates with the early states, and it is those states that would do any punishing, if they were to do it.

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