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	<title>Comments on: Democrats Must Win in November &#8212; That&#8217;s Why I&#8217;m Voting for Clinton Tomorrow</title>
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		<title>By: Marcos</title>
		<link>http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/04/democrats-must-win-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-459790</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama served only three terms in a state senate and has served three years in the U.S. Senate - 1 year he has been running for president full time - so he&#039;s the least qualified candidate in either party this year.

He also weaseled out on the Iran vote. You may not agree with Hillarys vote but at least she took a stand. He took the cowardly way out, was on the senate floor but did not vote yes or no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama served only three terms in a state senate and has served three years in the U.S. Senate &#8211; 1 year he has been running for president full time &#8211; so he&#8217;s the least qualified candidate in either party this year.</p>
<p>He also weaseled out on the Iran vote. You may not agree with Hillarys vote but at least she took a stand. He took the cowardly way out, was on the senate floor but did not vote yes or no.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Hadden</title>
		<link>http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/04/democrats-must-win-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-459491</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Hadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could Obama ruin the lifetime work of millions of Americans who have donated, walked and worked with the nations first extremely well qualified woman for the White House bid?   In the name of change, he rejects the billions of hours of millions of Democrats and others over the years working for change, who methodically have worked for such a positive, final step and moment of truth for the nation, indeed the world, that women are in fact equal.  Undoubtedly, it will be decades before a woman will be elected.  That would be a terrible injustice brought on by Senator Obama. 
 
A Hillary-Obama Ticket would basically solve THREE major issues in this country.
They have the not too often opportunity to choose to forever solve three long standing, hard worked for, dragging along issues in this country.

1) The glass ceiling and womenâ€™s equal paychecks,
2) race and
3) gender. 

An Obama-Hillary ticket would cover only race and gender. 
But would these folks actually DO the Jesus and MLK thing for JUSTICE, rather than continue to just talk about the MLK thing?  Would Obama put his agenda (his possessions/quest) aside in selfless service to the country to solve three major injustices rather than only two? 
That is the kind of character that creates change and builds good leadership. That kind of direct action for JUSTICE is what Americans desperately crave from their leaders and Congress. Meanwhile they will cling to to anyone just using the word change. Actual change begins in ourselves. Change and talking about change are two different things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could Obama ruin the lifetime work of millions of Americans who have donated, walked and worked with the nations first extremely well qualified woman for the White House bid?   In the name of change, he rejects the billions of hours of millions of Democrats and others over the years working for change, who methodically have worked for such a positive, final step and moment of truth for the nation, indeed the world, that women are in fact equal.  Undoubtedly, it will be decades before a woman will be elected.  That would be a terrible injustice brought on by Senator Obama. </p>
<p>A Hillary-Obama Ticket would basically solve THREE major issues in this country.<br />
They have the not too often opportunity to choose to forever solve three long standing, hard worked for, dragging along issues in this country.</p>
<p>1) The glass ceiling and womenâ€™s equal paychecks,<br />
2) race and<br />
3) gender. </p>
<p>An Obama-Hillary ticket would cover only race and gender.<br />
But would these folks actually DO the Jesus and MLK thing for JUSTICE, rather than continue to just talk about the MLK thing?  Would Obama put his agenda (his possessions/quest) aside in selfless service to the country to solve three major injustices rather than only two?<br />
That is the kind of character that creates change and builds good leadership. That kind of direct action for JUSTICE is what Americans desperately crave from their leaders and Congress. Meanwhile they will cling to to anyone just using the word change. Actual change begins in ourselves. Change and talking about change are two different things.</p>
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		<title>By: Madison</title>
		<link>http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/04/democrats-must-win-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-459358</link>
		<dc:creator>Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only people he tricked were people like you who fell for it and still haven&#039;t figured it out all these years later. The invasion was happening. The intelligence had been fixed. Nothing could have stopped Bush from going in.

The resolution was a wedge issue, nothing more. It didn&#039;t fool Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Daschle or any of the 77 senators who voted for it. They knew they were being played but Bush held all the cards then. 

Same with Obama voting for any number of Iraq &quot;supplementals&quot; Bush has sent up there. Bush should have included those funds in the regular budget process but he didn&#039;t, and all the Dems, &lt;em&gt;including St. Barack&lt;/em&gt;, are too terrified of being accused of &quot;not supporting the troops&quot; to vote against them.

These are political decisions, not decisions made on the merits. All pols do it, including your guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only people he tricked were people like you who fell for it and still haven&#8217;t figured it out all these years later. The invasion was happening. The intelligence had been fixed. Nothing could have stopped Bush from going in.</p>
<p>The resolution was a wedge issue, nothing more. It didn&#8217;t fool Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Daschle or any of the 77 senators who voted for it. They knew they were being played but Bush held all the cards then. </p>
<p>Same with Obama voting for any number of Iraq &#8220;supplementals&#8221; Bush has sent up there. Bush should have included those funds in the regular budget process but he didn&#8217;t, and all the Dems, <em>including St. Barack</em>, are too terrified of being accused of &#8220;not supporting the troops&#8221; to vote against them.</p>
<p>These are political decisions, not decisions made on the merits. All pols do it, including your guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Madison</title>
		<link>http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/04/democrats-must-win-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-459030</link>
		<dc:creator>Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl Rove&#039;s bogus Iraq authorization bill was a political gambit that had no practical effect whatsoever. Only one Decider made the decision to go into Iraq, and he  could have and would have done it without the congressional authorization. (Clinton invaded Kosovo without congressional authorization, and we are still there.) 

Rove&#039;s political stunt worked! Your rage against Hillary is still fresh as new six years later. It is one of Rove&#039;s only lasting successes. (Not that it was an original idea. LBJ did the same thing against members of his own party with the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which was based on a falsified incident that LBJ used as a pretext for war. After the Vietnam war went south, he called the war&#039;s critics who&#039;d voted for the resolution &quot;nervous nellies.&quot;)

When her husband signed the Defense of Marriage, as a lifelong Democrat, I was pretty upset. When I found out later he was having an extramarital affair at the time he signed it, I was really pissed. I will never forgive him for that. But while it lessened my respect for him, I still think he was a good president. 

The living politician I most admire is Jimmy Carter, but I think he was too decent to be the kind of president the public wants. He didn&#039;t back down on his principles and he didn&#039;t lie, and these admirable traits, combined with events he had no control over, conspired to doom his presidency. He was followed by amiable lunkhead who lied all the time, survived failure after failure, but was and is beloved by Republicans still today. 

Barack Obama would be a good president, I&#039;m sure. But this is for certain: He is not perfect. If he does become president, at some point, he will screw up or make a decision that you hate. It&#039;s one of the few things in politics you can count on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl Rove&#8217;s bogus Iraq authorization bill was a political gambit that had no practical effect whatsoever. Only one Decider made the decision to go into Iraq, and he  could have and would have done it without the congressional authorization. (Clinton invaded Kosovo without congressional authorization, and we are still there.) </p>
<p>Rove&#8217;s political stunt worked! Your rage against Hillary is still fresh as new six years later. It is one of Rove&#8217;s only lasting successes. (Not that it was an original idea. LBJ did the same thing against members of his own party with the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which was based on a falsified incident that LBJ used as a pretext for war. After the Vietnam war went south, he called the war&#8217;s critics who&#8217;d voted for the resolution &#8220;nervous nellies.&#8221;)</p>
<p>When her husband signed the Defense of Marriage, as a lifelong Democrat, I was pretty upset. When I found out later he was having an extramarital affair at the time he signed it, I was really pissed. I will never forgive him for that. But while it lessened my respect for him, I still think he was a good president. </p>
<p>The living politician I most admire is Jimmy Carter, but I think he was too decent to be the kind of president the public wants. He didn&#8217;t back down on his principles and he didn&#8217;t lie, and these admirable traits, combined with events he had no control over, conspired to doom his presidency. He was followed by amiable lunkhead who lied all the time, survived failure after failure, but was and is beloved by Republicans still today. </p>
<p>Barack Obama would be a good president, I&#8217;m sure. But this is for certain: He is not perfect. If he does become president, at some point, he will screw up or make a decision that you hate. It&#8217;s one of the few things in politics you can count on.</p>
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		<title>By: Madison</title>
		<link>http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/04/democrats-must-win-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-458745</link>
		<dc:creator>Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for unity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for unity.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory  Hinman</title>
		<link>http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/04/democrats-must-win-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-458475</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory  Hinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; youâ€™re going to need Hillaryâ€™s supporters then so you might want to tone it down just a hair.&quot;

Grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; youâ€™re going to need Hillaryâ€™s supporters then so you might want to tone it down just a hair.&#8221;</p>
<p>Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Madison</title>
		<link>http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/04/democrats-must-win-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-458370</link>
		<dc:creator>Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was Obama supporters who were whining in S.C. &lt;i&gt;Oooh, Bill Clinton was mean!&lt;/i&gt;

Well just wait -- if Obama gets the nomination, and that is looking increasingly likely, the Republicans won&#039;t care if you whine when they&#039;re mean. In fact, they will like it.

They will also laugh at talk of unity. Republicans don&#039;t want unity. This is a zero-sum game to them. They want to crush us. 

And remember it was Teddy Kennedy who ran against Pres. Carter, weakened the party and paved the way to Reagan. I&#039;m not sure his endorsement or John Kerry&#039;s is necessarily a sign of strength, esp. come the general.

And btw, you&#039;re going to need Hillary&#039;s supporters then so you might want to tone it down just a hair. He definitely won&#039;t win without us, especially if we&#039;re right about how savage they are to him, and about how quickly his support outside the party dries up and blows away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Obama supporters who were whining in S.C. <i>Oooh, Bill Clinton was mean!</i></p>
<p>Well just wait &#8212; if Obama gets the nomination, and that is looking increasingly likely, the Republicans won&#8217;t care if you whine when they&#8217;re mean. In fact, they will like it.</p>
<p>They will also laugh at talk of unity. Republicans don&#8217;t want unity. This is a zero-sum game to them. They want to crush us. </p>
<p>And remember it was Teddy Kennedy who ran against Pres. Carter, weakened the party and paved the way to Reagan. I&#8217;m not sure his endorsement or John Kerry&#8217;s is necessarily a sign of strength, esp. come the general.</p>
<p>And btw, you&#8217;re going to need Hillary&#8217;s supporters then so you might want to tone it down just a hair. He definitely won&#8217;t win without us, especially if we&#8217;re right about how savage they are to him, and about how quickly his support outside the party dries up and blows away.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory  Hinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory  Hinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from
http://mediabloodhound.typepad.com/weblog/2008/02/hillary-vs-obam.html

In 2005  &#039;Senate Amendment No. 4882,[was] an amendment to a Pentagon appropriations bill that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.&#039;

Hilary voted against the ban.

&#039;Analysts say Clinton did not want to risk appearing &quot;soft on terror,&quot; as it would have harmed her electability.&#039;

&#039;On not one but two of her most 
important life-and-death votes in the
 Senate, Clinton embraced political
 expediency over the protection of 
innocent human lives.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from<br />
<a href="http://mediabloodhound.typepad.com/weblog/2008/02/hillary-vs-obam.html" rel="nofollow">http://mediabloodhound.typepad.com/weblog/2008/02/hillary-vs-obam.html</a></p>
<p>In 2005  &#8216;Senate Amendment No. 4882,[was] an amendment to a Pentagon appropriations bill that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.&#8217;</p>
<p>Hilary voted against the ban.</p>
<p>&#8216;Analysts say Clinton did not want to risk appearing &#8220;soft on terror,&#8221; as it would have harmed her electability.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8216;On not one but two of her most<br />
important life-and-death votes in the<br />
 Senate, Clinton embraced political<br />
 expediency over the protection of<br />
innocent human lives.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos</title>
		<link>http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/04/democrats-must-win-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-458218</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAll are nuts. Haven&#039;t you paid attention? The Republicans are going to call him the &quot;L-word&quot; 24/7 until no Republican or moderate dem will ever vote for him. Pro-illegals. Pro-abortion. Pro-gay. Anti-gun. Liberal, liberal, liberal...

Were you asleep during 04 and 00??

By the time their done w/ him, Huckabee could beat him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAll are nuts. Haven&#8217;t you paid attention? The Republicans are going to call him the &#8220;L-word&#8221; 24/7 until no Republican or moderate dem will ever vote for him. Pro-illegals. Pro-abortion. Pro-gay. Anti-gun. Liberal, liberal, liberal&#8230;</p>
<p>Were you asleep during 04 and 00??</p>
<p>By the time their done w/ him, Huckabee could beat him.</p>
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		<title>By: John Petty</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, that &quot;divisive&quot; label is bogus anyway.  If you look at &quot;unfavorable&quot; ratings, you&#039;ll find that Hillary is only 3-4 points more &quot;unfavorable&quot; than Obama.

Obamabots, please:  Your guy may be wonderful, but he&#039;s not Jesus, OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, that &#8220;divisive&#8221; label is bogus anyway.  If you look at &#8220;unfavorable&#8221; ratings, you&#8217;ll find that Hillary is only 3-4 points more &#8220;unfavorable&#8221; than Obama.</p>
<p>Obamabots, please:  Your guy may be wonderful, but he&#8217;s not Jesus, OK?</p>
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