Comments on: Another Reason Not to be a Christian: Mark Driscoll http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/ News and Opinion on Politics and Media Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:12:35 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sarnia Skeptic http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-705492 Sarnia Skeptic Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:13:23 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/#comment-705492 Dan - I've read the bible - cover to cover. I've even read different versions of the bible, participated in bible study and, you are absolutely right, the bible says whatever you want it to say! (Mind you, in a different part of the bible, it will contradict that.) The bible is a man made book, it is worse than you can imagine and it is absolutely absurd that people believe any of it. You reference the gospel of John - not the earliest and definitely not the most reliable of the gospels - one that only devotional bible interpretation considers. Most of what 'John' (the gospel was not written by eyewitnesses) says is not supported by most of the other books of the bible (and especially isn't supported by other books not included in the bible). Sin is a construct of religion that I don't believe in and there is no reason to believe in it. If you accept that a god existed, it is despite the evidence (the real evidence and even the 'evidence' of the bible). Mark Driscoll is either deluded or driven by the profit motive. If it is the first, he's dangerous, if it is the latter then he's a liar. Time to put the fairy tales away - there is a real world out there that relies on contributions from everyone. Dan – I’ve read the bible – cover to cover. I’ve even read different versions of the bible, participated in bible study and, you are absolutely right, the bible says whatever you want it to say! (Mind you, in a different part of the bible, it will contradict that.)

The bible is a man made book, it is worse than you can imagine and it is absolutely absurd that people believe any of it.

You reference the gospel of John – not the earliest and definitely not the most reliable of the gospels – one that only devotional bible interpretation considers. Most of what ‘John’ (the gospel was not written by eyewitnesses) says is not supported by most of the other books of the bible (and especially isn’t supported by other books not included in the bible).

Sin is a construct of religion that I don’t believe in and there is no reason to believe in it. If you accept that a god existed, it is despite the evidence (the real evidence and even the ‘evidence’ of the bible).

Mark Driscoll is either deluded or driven by the profit motive. If it is the first, he’s dangerous, if it is the latter then he’s a liar.

Time to put the fairy tales away – there is a real world out there that relies on contributions from everyone.

]]> By: Dan http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-704794 Dan Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:11:42 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/#comment-704794 It is sad to read some of these comments. You talk about Lot, and how a person could become so twisted to have sex with his daughter. What do you say to the genocide that is happening in Sudan? Or closer to home, how do you rationalize young men in there 20's who drug a woman's drink so that he can rape her. It doesn't even have to be that violent. When I watch someone walk by and immediately compare myself to them, searching for all of the reasons that make me better, or when I see a girl walk by, I judge her based on her beauty, not her heart. It is all sin, and we are all sinners. Whether you accept that or not is up to you. Just like the gospel. Whether you accept it or not is up to you. The central message of the Bible is not fear and guilt at all. If you read the gospel of John, you will see that Jesus didn't come to the earth to judge it, but to serve and save it from the vast amounts of sin. I believe many Christians have given Jesus and Christianity a bad name, myself included. If I lived exactly as I should live as a Christian, I'd be Jesus. Nobody is perfect, and that is why we have to accept his mercy and grace. If you read the Bible, and I mean actually read it. As you would any other book, with an open mind. You will see that Jesus didn't come to earth to condemn us or scare us into following him. It all goes back to His love, and grace, but ultimately it is your choice. Please don't judge Jesus and Christianity based on the Christians that have lived or are living today because we all fail, and we could never love you like Jesus loves you. It is sad to read some of these comments. You talk about Lot, and how a person could become so twisted to have sex with his daughter. What do you say to the genocide that is happening in Sudan? Or closer to home, how do you rationalize young men in there 20’s who drug a woman’s drink so that he can rape her. It doesn’t even have to be that violent. When I watch someone walk by and immediately compare myself to them, searching for all of the reasons that make me better, or when I see a girl walk by, I judge her based on her beauty, not her heart. It is all sin, and we are all sinners. Whether you accept that or not is up to you. Just like the gospel. Whether you accept it or not is up to you. The central message of the Bible is not fear and guilt at all. If you read the gospel of John, you will see that Jesus didn’t come to the earth to judge it, but to serve and save it from the vast amounts of sin. I believe many Christians have given Jesus and Christianity a bad name, myself included. If I lived exactly as I should live as a Christian, I’d be Jesus. Nobody is perfect, and that is why we have to accept his mercy and grace.

If you read the Bible, and I mean actually read it. As you would any other book, with an open mind. You will see that Jesus didn’t come to earth to condemn us or scare us into following him. It all goes back to His love, and grace, but ultimately it is your choice. Please don’t judge Jesus and Christianity based on the Christians that have lived or are living today because we all fail, and we could never love you like Jesus loves you.

]]> By: Mike ODea http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-650751 Mike ODea Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:56:07 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/#comment-650751 I am a 68 year old guy. I became a Christian about 30 years ago. I have attended several churches over that span of time. When I first attended Mars Hill (4+ years ago) I was impressed with the fact that Mark Driscoll preached from the Bible only, and preached through entire books. He did not skip verses. He did not add to or subtract from God's Word. That is why I became a member of Mars Hill. The bottom line is that if you disagree with something Driscoll has said, most often your beef is with God and not Driscoll. He preaches what the Bible says. Some would say "how do we know the Bible is really the Word of God. I would say, read it from cover to cover. I did, and I know it is God's Word. I am a 68 year old guy. I became a Christian about 30 years ago. I have attended several churches over that span of time. When I first attended Mars Hill (4+ years ago) I was impressed with the fact that Mark Driscoll preached from the Bible only, and preached through entire books. He did not skip verses. He did not add to or subtract from God’s Word. That is why I became a member of Mars Hill. The bottom line is that if you disagree with something Driscoll has said, most often your beef is with God and not Driscoll. He preaches what the Bible says. Some would say “how do we know the Bible is really the Word of God. I would say, read it from cover to cover. I did, and I know it is God’s Word.

]]> By: Richard Johnsen http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-650551 Richard Johnsen Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:46:19 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/#comment-650551 Word to the wise about religion, especially Christianity...It's main sell is "FEAR" and "GUILT".......I REJECT THE PREMISE OF BOTH!!!! Word to the wise about religion, especially Christianity…It’s main sell is “FEAR” and “GUILT”…….I REJECT THE PREMISE OF BOTH!!!!

]]> By: Richard Johnsen http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-650550 Richard Johnsen Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:43:10 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/#comment-650550 The whole mindspasm falls apart if you open the bible to the part where (Lot got so twisted he diden't realize he was banging his own daughters)...nAME ONE FATHER ALIVE WHO COULD DO THAT!!!!!!Thats not humanly possible to get that drunk!!!!! The whole mindspasm falls apart if you open the bible to the part where (Lot got so twisted he diden’t realize he was banging his own daughters)…nAME ONE FATHER ALIVE WHO COULD DO THAT!!!!!!Thats not humanly possible to get that drunk!!!!!

]]> By: Marlin Bynum http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-649230 Marlin Bynum Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:11:09 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/#comment-649230 As sad as it sounds, this is the true "gospel" God hates you but will kill on your behalf. I preached this for many years and believed it for a few. It was a hope. I know now the falseness of the message. Maybe one day rationality and reason will win out and people will see that they don't need a god(dess) to scare hell out of them, but can rationally choose to do right and be better to their fellow tribe. As sad as it sounds, this is the true “gospel” God hates you but will kill on your behalf. I preached this for many years and believed it for a few. It was a hope. I know now the falseness of the message. Maybe one day rationality and reason will win out and people will see that they don’t need a god(dess) to scare hell out of them, but can rationally choose to do right and be better to their fellow tribe.

]]> By: John http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-649219 John Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:46:53 +0000 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/01/12/mark-driscoll-another-reason-not-to-be-a-christian/#comment-649219 Mark Driscoll does not say anything new in this video- he is preaching what the bible says. If you don't like the message don't shoot the messenger. Mark Driscoll does not say anything new in this video- he is preaching what the bible says.
If you don’t like the message don’t shoot the messenger.

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