Huckabee and the Boy Scouts
His Son Was Fired As a Scout Counselor for Torturing a Dog to Death
David Huckabee in mug shot from weapons arrest

David Huckabee in mug shot from an April 2007 arrest on weapons charges

On Day Three of Mike Huckabee’s Lie-apalooza Tour this week, in an interview with hate-group radio host Bryan Fischer, Huckabee said this:

At age 18, Huckabee’s son David was fired by the Scouts as a camp counselor after he and another counselor captured a stray dog, hanged him by the neck, slit his throat and stoned him to death.

HUCKABEE: “…I do think [Pres. Obama] has a different worldview and I think it’s, in part, molded out of a very different experience. Most of us grew up going to Boy Scout meetings and, you know, our communities were filled with Rotary Clubs, not madrassas.”

Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist preacher, former governor of Arkansas and Fox News host, first got himself into rhetorical trouble on Monday when, on another right-wing radio show, he opined that Obama’s worldview had been warped by having grown up in Kenya under the influence of his paternal grandfather, who, according to Huckabee, had been involved in the Mau Mau Revolt against the British in the 1950s.

As evidence of how Obama’s worldview had been distorted by his Mau Mau revolutionary grandfather, Huckabee cited the president’s decision early in his term to return to the British Embassy a bust of Winston Churchillthat had been on loan in the Oval Office. Churchill was Britain’s prime minister during the revolt.

Except for the fact that Obama returned the Churchill piece — which he replaced with a bust of Abraham Lincoln — all of that was a lie. Obama was in his late twenties when he first stepped foot in Kenya. He met his paternal grandfather for the first time and only time then. There is no evidence his grandfather was involved in the uprising, other than a less-than-reliable recollection of it decades later by his then-87-year-old widowed third wife.

In reality, Obama’s worldview was shaped by his maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, a Kansan who served with Patton in World War II and who was the president’s primary father figure growing up in Honolulu. And Obama did spend part of his childhood overseas. His family moved to Indonesia, where his mother, an anthropologist, was doing research, when he was five years old. He returned to Honolulu five years later.

On Tuesday, in an attempt to walk back his lies, Huckabee released a statement insisting that, on Monday, he’d meant to say “Indonesia” every time he said “Kenya” when he said this:

HUCKABEE: [If] you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather. (Emphasis added.)

For the record, the Mau Mau Revolt occurred in Kenya, then British East Africa, not Indonesia — and, like the Mau Maus, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the rest of America’s revolutionaries also viewed the British as “a bunch of imperialists” who persecuted colonials.

It was the next day that, in a fit of exasperation, Huckabee said, “Most of us grew up going to Boy Scout meetings and, you know, our communities were filled with Rotary Clubs, not madrassas.”

Leaving aside the fact that both the Scouts and Rotary are international organizations with longstanding branches in Indonesia (and that there at least three Islamic centers in Little Rock, Ark., where Huckabee lived when he was governor), Huckabee opened a can of worms when he brought the Scouts into his attempts to smear Pres. Obama.

As Trish reported here in December 2007, during the 2008 presidential primaries, it came out that, at age 18, Huckabee’s son David had been fired by the Scouts as a camp counselor after he and another counselor captured a stray dog, hanged him by the neck, slit his throat and stoned him to death.

The elder Huckabee, who was governor of Arkansas at the time, later fired a local prosecutor who had investigated the matter with the aim of filing animal cruelty charges against David Huckabee and the other boy. In the end, other than being fired by the Boy Scouts, the boys were never held accountable for killing the helpless dog.

Since Mike Huckabee has chosen to spend the week smearing the president’s family by criticizing his upbringing and the way it purportedly shaped his worldview, someone should ask him who warped his own son into the kind of person who would commit such a heinous and gruesome act — was it David Huckabee’s bigoted Southern Baptist preacher father, the Boy Scouts of America — or both?

36 Responses »

  1. Sungo March 4, 2011 @ 9:22 am

    Well thats kinda crazy when yout hink about it.

    http://www.total-privacy.ie.tc

  2. sa warner March 4, 2011 @ 9:35 am

    Hucakbee apparently likes putting his foot in his mouth as much as an over-eater likes working a fork.

    lw

  3. Al Adcock March 4, 2011 @ 9:46 am

    So the Boy Scouts do the right thing and fire this person, and you think they might be responsible for his horrifying actions? It seems to me that the within the space of your article, the Boy Scouts are the *only* party that acted responsibly. Shame on you.

  4. walnut March 4, 2011 @ 9:48 am

    Actually, the part about returning the bust of Winston Churchill is a lie as well. It was removed from the oval office, yes, but moved into the residence, not returned to Britain. It wasn’t even removed from the White House.

    More to the point re: being against British colonialism. Last I checked that would describe our founding fathers to a tee. Is Huckabee claiming that’s a bad thing?

  5. Jimmy Cracks Capricorns March 4, 2011 @ 10:42 am

    I was in Scouts, and we were pretty mischievous. Boomers of the 50′s and 60′s….Why have so many civil rights and cultural revolutionaries abandoned, sold out to wall street, the core values of power to the people? Where is the American Rebel Spirit, and why have they kowtowed to militaristic America and the freakishly religious right GOP??????

  6. confused March 4, 2011 @ 11:42 am

    as i understand it, the mau mau revolt was an attempt by native people in kenya to throw off colonial oppression. why would anyone feel shame in participating in such a thing, or being the descendant of a participant? the ancestors of all four of my grandparents participated in the big one in 1776.

  7. theHoundDawg March 4, 2011 @ 11:44 am

    The tea party religious right observes two sets of rules of life, one for them, and one for everyone else. Huckabee’s kid did no wrong, but Natalie Portman is castigated for getting pregnant. Similarly, Pres. Obama is not an American due to his Kenyan father and Hawaiian birth, but never ever mentioned in the 2008 campaign was the fact that McCain was born in Panama.

  8. js March 4, 2011 @ 12:47 pm

    I just wrote the worthless Huckabee and told him I considered him to be the epitome of evil. I also told him that his book and pictures were in my local Costco & how I felt dirty every time I see them after reading how he raises his children. It made me feel a little better.

  9. Crowd Control March 4, 2011 @ 2:11 pm

    I had to post this just because Al Adcock is such a goddamn idiot that I couldn’t let it go. Al you apparently cannot detect sarcasm even when it is smeared onto your monitor like chunky sarcastic peanut butter. You are also apparently so narrow in your focus that you missed the point of the story entirely. Al you need to smarten up. Get your game face on Al, this is the internet and even though it’s just a game, we expect you to play to the best of your ability. If you can’t keep up, perhaps you should just go back to writing angry letters to your local newspaper editor about the size of the typeface, and leave this sort of stuff to the professionals.

  10. tcp March 4, 2011 @ 2:14 pm

    What is the statute of limitations for obstruction of Justice?

  11. Your Mom March 4, 2011 @ 2:27 pm

    Your mom.

  12. Someguy March 4, 2011 @ 3:09 pm

    Also, don’t forget David was arrested for trying to carry a gun onto a plane;
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268762,00.html

    Nothing happened to him then, either.

  13. Jon Ponder March 4, 2011 @ 3:35 pm

    Thanks, Crowd Control, and for the record, I made it to Star in the Scouts and no animals were harmed in all those years, except for the occasional snipe.

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  15. Jn March 4, 2011 @ 7:03 pm

    The scariest thing is Jr and friend torturing and killing a dog! Thats how serial killers start…

  16. Explaining March 4, 2011 @ 7:35 pm

    To all who are thinking the author is indicating that boy scouts encourages animal cruelty, I just think he was making a point that if any party be corrupt in the story, it’s the party that potentially influeced Huckabee’s son to torture the dog, which likely was not the boy scouts of America (since he noted that it was an int’l organization which had branches in Indonesia, where Obama could have had potential influence, and of course as many former boy scouts are pointing out, the organization had no influences of animal cruelty). This would leave Huckabee to be the most likely influence upon his son, which is not disproved by his action to fire the person who would make it possible for his son to be persecuted.

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  18. SouthernGirl2 March 4, 2011 @ 8:53 pm

    When evil gets to rockin….Karma comes a knockin!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. Karen Miller March 4, 2011 @ 9:27 pm

    Keep your eye on David Huckabee….there is a very good chance he’ll be featured in the crime pages eventually.

  20. SouthernGirl2 March 4, 2011 @ 10:59 pm

    http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/03/proud-to-be-cynical/72061/

    Mike Huckabee, in 2011, on Natalie Portman having a child with a man she’s engaged to, before they’ve actually married:

    “One of the most troubling things is that people see a Natalie Portman or some other Hollywood starlet that boasts of, hey look, we’re having children, we’re not married, but we’re having children and they’re doing just fine.”

    “There aren’t really a lot of single moms out there that are making millions of dollars each year by being in a movie”

    “I think it gives a distorted image that not everybody hires nannies and caretakers and nurses. Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can’t get a job, and if it weren’t for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and would not get healthcare.”

    Mike Huckabee, in 2008, on Bristol Palin having a child with a man she was engaged to, before they’d actually married:

    “It ought to be a reminder that here is a family that loves one another. They stuck with each other though the tough times and that’s what families do.” … Huckabee said the surprise pregnancy announcement should not affect vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s support in the conservative and religious right communities. … “I’m grateful for the way she’s being supported by her family.”

    What a two-face!

  21. MtnRunner March 4, 2011 @ 11:35 pm

    SouthernGirl, the clinical name for that is Cognitive Dissonance and it runs rampant on the right. It is the result of having a political philosophy based on beliefs rather than logic, reason and historical fact.

  22. Aara March 5, 2011 @ 5:11 am

    My my. Huck tells a little bit about Obama’s past that the news media SHOULD have told America in 2008 and the left comes unglued and starts with the personal attacks.

    Gee, people. Do you suppose a lot of the attitudes displayed here are the reason lefties lost the House and will lose the Senate and Presidency in 2012?

    You need to learn, you aren’t even 20% of the population and you are probably the result of something your mother ate or did during pregnancy.

  23. My name is Aara Retard March 5, 2011 @ 6:26 am

    Notice how Aara doesn’t give the slightest darn about animal torturin’ and killin’ as long as a rightie is doing it.

    Lock up your dog, cat, mama and wife, folks!

  24. somnguy March 5, 2011 @ 7:02 am

    Sounds like the David Huckebee was in a satanic cult. Who could be so cruel to torture a helpless animal? Did he molest any the children, he does look the type by his mug shot. We will never know, i am sure his dad buried Davids past deed so deep know one will ever know. I guess it pays to be a ministers son who has power, using evil and lies to his advantage! Planting a seed of lies is what he is doing and may god burn him in hell. Huckebee is evil!

  25. Becky Copple March 5, 2011 @ 8:06 am

    Well look at Aara another upstanding follower of the Republican Jesus. You are just a pillar of goodness aren’t you? God must be so proud of you for defending a liar that uses him to suck in simple minded people like you. Forget that dog and what doing something like that to an animal implies (Psychopath) It was done by a Repub preachers son. So it’s just a sacrifice right? No big deal. But let a Dems kid get caught doing something like this and I bet you would be the first to go off the deep end about it.

  26. rjwalker March 5, 2011 @ 9:07 am

    In evaluating Huckabee, I really don’t think it is significant whether his kid is some sort of cruel bastard or not.*

    And it’s unfortunate that he (i) was so wrong about Obama’s history and (ii) won’t admit his error.

    But for me, the most significant concern is his declaration that “Most of us grew up going to Boy Scout meetings.”

    I believe that assertion shows just how sadly narrow is his experience and how great is his mis-understanding of America and the American people.

    As a natural born question-asker, I just did some research on scouting participation rates in the US. I had to extrapolate some numbers, and I have assumed that scouting participation has remained fairly constant, percentage-wise, over the years.

    Charitably reading his statement as “going to Boy Scout _or Girl Scout_ meetings,” — only about 13% of Americans grew up that way.

    (Applying the standards of strict construction, only about 8% of us grew up “going to Boy Scout meetings.”)

    In my experience, each of us tends to assume that everyone has had the same experiences and shares the same understandings and values. (Honest people tends to assume everyone else is honest, liars tend to assume everyone else is a liar.)

    Some of my biggest mistakes in life have resulted from acting from that sort of misunderstanding.

    I believe our leaders have to understand that their own experiences alone do not represent the “real America” and that they have a duty to consciously expand their experience if they want to represent the real America.

    My sources and more are at: http://rjw-progressive.blogspot.com/2011/03/real-real-america.html

    = = = =
    * I know many fine people who have some rotten kids, and in retrospect, I sure hope my parents friends didn’t blame them for some of my behavior during the 60s!

  27. rjwalker March 5, 2011 @ 9:13 am

    @Aara
    >>Huck tells a little bit about Obama’s past that the news media SHOULD have told America in 2008 and the left comes unglued and starts with the personal attacks.

    I guess you missed the fact that Huckabee was wrong in that “little bit” of history?

    Because otherwise the idea that “the news media” should have carried false information is somewhat unsettling to me.

  28. SouthernGirl2 March 5, 2011 @ 10:40 am

    @ Aara

    What is your problem? You do realize Huckabee has been spreading lies about our President’s past with the Mau Mau bs & madrassas. He lied again claiming he misspoke and meant to say Indonesia. Mau Mau didn’t happen in Indonesia. Huckabee is a two-faced lying hypocrite. Huckabee is pandering to southern voters because he knows that’s what they want to hear. He is a disgrace before God.

    Do you not see anything wrong in hanging a dog and slitting it’s throat? What is wrong with you?

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  30. js March 5, 2011 @ 6:32 pm

    Why did Michael Vick go to prison and Huckleberry’s son did not pay any price for his cruelty to an animal & goodness knows what else, it really makes you wonder whatever else in this families background is so sordid (oh I forgot Huckleberry let a killer go free who went on to murder another person) I emailed Huckleberry and told him I felt dirty every time I read a story about his loathsome family, also not to send robocalls to my home for help!

  31. jane March 5, 2011 @ 8:22 pm

    The most concerning thing here is that his son had no legal consequence for his behavior, which means he’s probably repeated that same behavior. Sure, people squish spiders or swat flies, but to hang, slit the throat, then stone an animal to death? That type of behavior isn’t developed overnight; THAT is a deep-rooted problem. That type of problem is one that many serial killers display. It takes a “special” breed of human to torture an animal in that manner. With Daddy protecting him from being prosecuted, Davey was/is free to continue this pattern, only difference is I’m sure he’ll be careful not to get caught again.

  32. Shesha Smith March 6, 2011 @ 11:54 am

    Aara, you are the perfect profile of Fox Fantasy News viewers, teabaggers and stupid people. You do not care about the facts, you only want lies told about Obama. You are a discredit to America. I only hope you do not own animals. You do not give a damn about truth…you just want to get the black man out of the white house because he scares you. What century are you living in?

  33. SouthernGirl2 March 6, 2011 @ 1:24 pm

    Aara, you are the perfect profile of Fox Fantasy News viewers, teabaggers and stupid people. You do not care about the facts, you only want lies told about Obama.

    Nothing but truth.

  34. Richard Lombardo March 27, 2011 @ 1:10 pm

    Apparently, the only time Huckabee opens his mouth is to change feet…

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