Guess What Percentage of Americans Is Gay

If you guessed that 25 percent of Americans are gay, you would be wrong, but you would be in agreement with a majority of the country, according to a new poll from Gallup:

Anti-gay activists debunk assertions that 10 percent of the population is gay. They claim it’s more like 2 percent — which prompts the question: If there are so few gay people, why all the fuss?

U.S. adults, on average, estimate that 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian. More specifically, over half of Americans (52 percent) estimate that at least one in five Americans are gay or lesbian, including 35 percent who estimate that more than one in four are. Thirty percent put the figure at less than 15 percent.

The adult population of the United States is about 225 million. If a quarter of them were gay, that would be 56 million people — that’s a lot of gay people. That’s roughly the number of Catholics in America. No way.

The fact is, nobody really knows how many gay people there are in the United States or anywhere. The conventional wisdom used to be 10 percent, a figure that probably came from the Kinsey Report in the 1930s.

These days, anti-gay activists dispute that it’s 10 percent. They put it at 2 percent. And, as it happens, they are close, according to Gallup:

There is little reliable evidence about what percentage of the U.S. population is in reality gay or lesbian, due to few representative surveys asking about sexual orientation, complexities surrounding the groups and definitions involved, and the probability that some gay and lesbian individuals may not choose to identify themselves as such. Demographer Gary Gates last month released a review of population-based surveys on the topic, estimating that 3.5 percent of adults in the United States identify as lesbian, gay, or bisexual, with bisexuals making up a slight majority of that figure.

Out of 225 million adults, 3.5 percent is 7.8 million people.

If that’s true, it makes you wonder what all the fuss is about. Why, for example, did the 10 largest gay-hate groups feel compelled to raise $400 million to fight gay rights in 2005. Or why were anti-gay activists, including the leadership of the Mormon Church, driven to spend $40 million in 2008 to overturn marriage equality in California in 2008.

All those tens of millions to prevent small subsets of those 7.8 million people from marrying, serving in the military and other pursuits, for no other reason than their status as sinners.

You’d think Christians could find better things to do with $440 million than foment hate. You know, feed the hungry, house the homeless, heal the sick. That sort of thing.

51 Responses »

  1. Nikolai May 28, 2011 @ 12:25 pm

    I would say the 25% estimate of gay Americans is probably accurate IF you include bisexuals. Otherwise I’d say it’s probably lower, around 15-18%. As far as adulterers being at the 22% mark, I believe that’s LOW. I read a dependable study that said 56% of men and about 46% of women cheat at some point in their marriages, and from living in America and being around average Americans for many years, I’d say my percentages are more accurate.

  2. Trish Ponder May 28, 2011 @ 5:25 pm

    Wikipedia says the population of the incorporated city of Los Angeles is 3,792,621 and the population of West Hollywood is 34,399. If we assume that every person in West Hollywood is gay and that every person in the city of Los Angeles is straight, we would have about 9% gay people. These would be very poor assumptions, and I’m guessing the correct percentage is more than that.

  3. Nikolai May 28, 2011 @ 11:03 pm

    “You’d think Christians could find better things to do with $400 million than foment hate. You know, feed the hungry, house the homeless, heal the sick. That sort of thing.”

    Hate is an industry of its own.

  4. Bobbski May 29, 2011 @ 2:57 am

    Does this number include GOP closet queens?

  5. Jon May 29, 2011 @ 5:40 am

    Conventional wisdom has it that the population of West Hollywood is one-third gay, one-third Russian and one-third “other” — but we’re not in the city of Los Angeles, of course. There is a gay neighborhood in LA called Silver Lake, up in the hills near Downtown. It’s where the Mattachine Society, the first-ever gay organization was founded, in the early 1950s. Members included Harry Hay, fashion designer Rudi Gernreich and Will Geer, who much later became famous for his role as Grandpa on the Waltons. I have no idea what Silver Lake’s population is. I don’t think I’ve seen break-outs on LA population by district.

  6. Trish Ponder May 29, 2011 @ 8:01 am

    You say it’s 1/3 gay and 1/3 Russians. What about the gay Russians? But seriously, what’s your own estimate of the percentage of gay people? You never exactly said.

  7. Jon May 29, 2011 @ 1:04 pm

    I wouldn’t quibble that 3.5 percent are Kinsey 6s. I suspect that if Kinsey 5s to 3s were included, you’d get to 10 percent, which is also the percentage who are left-handed.

    Gay Russians probably move to Silver Lake.

  8. Kevin Schmidt May 29, 2011 @ 1:30 pm

    The main contention of the homophobes is they want to defend traditional marriage. But if that were really the case, they would have much better success at defending marriage if they went after adultery and divorce.

    Of course they won’t because half of the homophobes commit adultery and then get divorced by their spouses.

    Another interesting percentage (that has been scientifically proven) is this, over 75% of all homophobes are latent gays. In other words, they are in the closet with their own selves!

  9. oudiva May 29, 2011 @ 2:28 pm

    The religious right wing would do well to remember that “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.” Or, if you prefer, “There is none righteous – no, not one.” Or yet, “All our righteousness is as filthy rags.” One Bible commentary says that “filthy rags” might be more accurately translated as “soiled underwear.” Those are all quotes from the BIBLE, guys – the Bible you claim to take literally. Going after gays for being “sinners,” is like going after them for being human – makes as much sense.

    As a Christian, I agree that housing the homeless, feeding the hungry and caring for the sick are our real priorities. Jesus says that our salvation depends on how well we do those things.

  10. PAUL July 25, 2011 @ 11:49 am

    Weill as a Christan I’m told to love all men and women and as a American Vet(USMC)I’ve stood on that wall to protect the rights of all Americans (men,women,gay,bisexuality and kids)
    No were in My Bible or in the American Consultation(which was founded on Christan values)that it is OK for me or any other person two shove there beliefs down some ones Else’s throat!
    When the Gay groups are saying that 3rd graders have to be thought about being gay and there parents have no right to stop this!(this happened in San Francisco)or a church is being told that they have to hire and preform Gay marriages or when the state of CA. vote that a marriage is one man and one women, then a gay Juge can over turn it and say it’s wrong!
    This is a small group of people trying to shave their belies down all are throats!
    As Americans no matter what your believe we need to stop this from happening other wise we can kiss America good by

  11. Lexi October 11, 2011 @ 12:52 pm

    Paul, I respect your beliefs, but I highly doubt that churches are forced to do anything. They don’t even have to marry divorced people. Church marriage and civil marriages are different. Some churches may perform gay marriages, due to pressure or their beliefs, for example, I would not go to church and give 10% of my income to a church that does not support me. I am in a heterosexual relationship, but I still would not support any group that discriminates, therefore I think you get pressure and forced mixed up.

    The judges are saying its unconstitutional because bans against same sex marriage is unconstitutional, wrong, and plain hateful, its the same reason why inter-racial marriage was forced even on the southern (racist) states, and why prayer is not allowed in schools (although my 8th grade reading teacher often broke the first amendment by preaching in class and forcing us to pray, I live in the bible belt, so it wasn’t that uncommon, I had quite a few others that would preach in class, usually around Christmas time. Its because when something is unconstitutional, or harms people without benefiting anyone, it should not be legal, if 75% vote that they should be allowed to kill anyone they want at any time for any reason, it still shouldn’t be legalized, because it infringes on the right to life, and it harms people, without actually benefiting anyone.

    As far as teaching children without parent’s wanting it, that’s a good thing. Its all nice and good when people have personal rights, but when parents are allowed to teach hate without the children being taught to accept others even if they have two mommies, or like other boys. One recent case for example, was about middle school children. There was a cross-dresser, who asked another boy to be his valentine, that other kid was taught nothing but hate from his parents, and shot him dead in front of the entire class, his parents then praised him, and it is debated that he will be arrested for murder due to how his parents raised him.
    It is not okay to make hate acceptable, and to teach that to kids.
    Until I realized that I just loved people for who they were, without caring about gender or other physical qualities, I thought I was a lesbian, and I knew that since I was about three years old. My dad taught me nothing but hate for the LGBT community. Lucky he and mom got divorced and she taught me acceptance. Even with her acceptance I was very near suicide from the ages of 9-15 for nothing other than thinking I was gay, and for thinking that it was wrong to be gay. I didn’t even come out until after I started dating my fiancee, and he was one of the first I told. My family still doesn’t know because I don’t trust them to not tell my dad.
    Even now I live in constant fear, imagine what it would be like to be one of those kids, that were raised knowing nothing but fear and hatred of the LGBT community. It wouldn’t have been just suicidal, it would have been suicide. The only thing that gave me hope was knowing that after I am grown I can come out to my mom and my dad can’t do anything, and then it will get better.

    So yes, just as parents should have no right in censoring kids from learning about biracial children, and inter-racial marriages, or single parents, or people with different religions, parents should have no right to censor what children learn about sexual orientation.

    What if their child is gay?
    What if his best friend is gay?
    What if they have a gay classmate and they don’t understand, or hate him and decide to kill him?

  12. Jim Cap October 15, 2011 @ 12:23 am

    Here’s another question: Should human rights, and civil liberties, be based on what percentage of people are (fill in the blank)?

    Whether gay or straight or young or old or black or white or Irish or Chinese or female or male or Jewish or Muslim or anything else, why would the sheer numbers—low or high—be relevant when determining human rights?

    I actually heard this argument more from anti-gay people in the early 90’s. Insisting that less than 1% of the population was gay, they’d actually try to make an “argument” against their civil rights, on that basis!

    I’d say it was irrelevant and would get obtuse and convoluted responses like, “So, you’re going to defend a group that comprises such a small number of people?”

    Are there still people dumb enough to make similar statements today?

  13. Haley Monteith October 22, 2011 @ 4:56 pm

    Thank you so much for that last comment. I personally believe it’s 10%

  14. Mark December 23, 2011 @ 10:03 pm

    It’s NOT their “status as sinners” that motivates the opposition. Why is this continually so distorted? Homosexuals have been living their lifestyle for centuries with little to no opposition… especially in recent times. The thing that most people object to is being forced to accept their perversion as normal, by changing our laws to allow them to marry, by allowing our schools to teach our pre-pubescent children that it’s ok to be this way, by allowing parents to put a dress on a boy and send him into the public. This is what most Americans are opposed to.

  15. Jon December 24, 2011 @ 6:45 am

    Mark – It is not true that “homosexuals have been living their lifestyle for centuries with little to no opposition.” Homosexuality was a crime until very recently — 2003, in the United States, in fact. In centuries past, the punishment for the crime of being gay was death.

    During World War II, just as the Nazis made Jews wear yellow stars in public, gays were made to wear pink triangles. Eventually, they were rounded up along with Jews, Gypsies and political prisoners and sent to concentration camps. When the Allies liberated the camps, they freed the surviving Jews, Gypsies and political prisoners but transferred the inmates wearing pink triangles to civilian jails.

    Here in the States after the war, gays who were arrested were further shamed by having their names published in the local newspaper, which usually led to their being evicted and/or fired. The laws are gone now, so homophobes mete out rough justice, from harassment and bullying to murder.

    Homosexuality is a “perversion” from the norm, but it is no more different from the norm than being left-handed, blue-eyed and blond — or black or Latino — in our society. The only reason being gay has a negative connotation is the fact that it was declared a sin by desert nomads 4,000 years ago in a text that is part of what we now call the Old Testament.

    If those nomadic tribesman had declared being left-handed to be a sin 4,000 years ago, people like you would be sneering at southpaws now, for no other reason than their “status as sinners.”

    To believe homosexuality is a sin, you have to believe it is a choice — and to believe it is a choice, you have to believe that throughout time people have chosen to be discriminated against, convicted of crimes, beaten or killed because they can’t control their sexual impulses. That is crazy.

    Around here, we have what we call the Marcus Bachmann Rule. It is very simple — heterosexuals who are secure about their own sexuality are not obsessed with homosexuality — but here is how I have explained it in the past:

    People who are happily straight are apathetic about the mechanics of gay sex. They do not make it their life mission to suppress gay rights. They don’t spend every waking hour figuring out new ways to oppress gay people, and they never send their families out to picket funerals with signs that say, for example, “God Hates Fags.” And, especially, they don’t try to “cure” homosexuality with “pray away the gay” schemes like Marcus Bachmann’s.

  16. Dave January 12, 2012 @ 9:05 pm

    Probably part of the reason the LGBT population is overestimated is that so many Americans have a friend, child, or close coworker who is LGBT. America has changed quite a bit in the last 10 years on this issue, likely because of the increasing acceptance and approval given to the LGBT community by respectable media organizations in the 21st century and the huge support and acceptance for LGBT marriage among the youth, who have grown up very surrounded by that media support. When TV shows commonly include gay characters that the viewers can relate with, it’s almost like having a gay friend, and their likelihood of supporting LGBT causes goes way up.

    Though this post is informative, I was somewhat surprised and put off that the end labelled other groups as Gay-haters or “anti-gay activists”. Some of my friends are on that side of the issue, but I don’t think that makes them haters. We shouldn’t fight “haters” with hate of our own or derogatory labels- isn’t that exactly what we’ve been trying, for decades, to end ? I think we will gain more support as we stay on the high ground and offer an example of an all-inclusive society where no group or organization feels hated or has labels put on them by others. There are many Christians, Catholics, and Mormons among our own LGBT community, and deriding religious groups just shows that we aren’t any more adult than any of them. Let’s show other people what it means to accept and treat everyone well, and set an example that they will eventually realize is better, and will follow.

  17. Jon January 13, 2012 @ 10:08 am

    Sorry, Dave, I could not disagree with you more. If it looks like hatred, sounds like hatred and, most importantly, feels like hatred when it is directed at you, it is hatred.

    People who hate gay people really hate something about themselves — normal, well-adjusted people do not obsess about the sex lives of strangers. Anyone who hates gay people because they are gay should be called out and labeled for what they are — bigots, who are motivated by ignorance and self-loathing. There is no middle ground or gray area around this issue.

  18. Chris1791 January 15, 2012 @ 2:17 pm

    Think about this fact. The prime directive of any organism is to reproduce. That being FACT if there were 25% of humans born gay mother nature would be failing the prime directive to reproduce to continue the species. That number way too high. They number is less than 5% Stop pushing the gay agenda and use facts not what you hope to be true.

  19. Chris1791 January 15, 2012 @ 2:22 pm

    And the gay marriage issue. Churches cannot be made to marry people they chose not to marry. I have no problem with civil unions which give you all the same rights as married couples have. Churches have a right to do whatever their religion dictates to them. Catholics are supposed to be excommunicated from the church if they get divorced and they are not aloud to get remarried in the church. They are the rules. Don’t like them find your own religion but leave mine alone. It’s been around 2,000 so leave it alone.

  20. Jon January 16, 2012 @ 11:25 am

    Chris1791 – Civil unions are separate but unequal. They don’t cover all the free benefits awarded by marriage. Also, you’re wrong on the facts. Marriage is licensed by the state, not the church. To be technical, marriages happen when the license is signed, weddings are optional consecrations or commemorations of the union that are usually, but not always, conducted in a church. The proof that marriage is a state, not church, issue is simple: When it’s time to divorce, the couple goes to court, not the church, to dissolve their union.

    You are correct that under our tradition of separation of church and state, the state cannot tell churches whom to marry. If a church chooses to express itself with hatred and bigotry by refusing to perform same-sex weddings, that is the right of the church.

    But you are way off base about nature’s directive. For one thing, multiple species exhibit same-sex attraction. Even so, a much more credible case could be made that homosexuality is nature’s reaction to over-population. With the human population at 7 billion, no one with half a brain can argue that the earth is not over-populated.

  21. StarrAnn January 17, 2012 @ 12:47 am

    Why are gay people always trying to justify their being gay, such as the writer? Like bringing up the adultery thing!None of it is good. Both are an abomination of GOD.

  22. Jon January 17, 2012 @ 6:35 am

    StarrAnn – Let me explain why, because whether you are a Christian or a Mormon, you need to understand it. I covered this topic extensively back in 2007 in an article titled, Abominations: You Could Be Committing One Right Now, Even if You’re Not Gay.

    The gist of it is that there two main classes of sins in the Old Testament, abominations and the Ten Commandments. You are correct that being gay is an abomination, according to the wandering desert tribesmen who came up with the laws in the OT 4,000 years ago — but even then, adultery and covetousness were considered to be sins much worse than being gay.

    Abomination class sins — for which, like being gay, the ultimate punishment is permanent banishment from heaven — include eating ham (Deut. 14: 8); eating any seafood other than fish, including lobster, shrimp, clams, eel, squid and octopus (Lev. 11:10-19); eating leftovers (Lev. 19:7); visiting a psychic or checking your horoscope (Deut. 18:10-12); burning incense (Isiah 1:13); cheating at business (Deut. 25:13-16); women wearing pants (22:5); and arrogance (Proverbs 16:5), among many others.

    Unlike adultery, however, being gay is not prohibited in the Ten Commandments, where adulterous behavior is actually addressed twice: thou shall not commit adultery, and thou shall not covet thy neighbor.

    Of course, as a Christian or a Mormon, you surely know that in his New Covenant, Jesus revoked all of the Old Testament laws — presumably including the prohibition against being gay — except for the Ten Commandments. That’s why, for example, Christians feel free to eat ham, shrimp and lobster and Catholics burn incense during mass.

    In fact, Jesus mentioned just one abomination: In Luke 16:15, he defined the love of money as an abomination to God.

    If you believe gays should be denied their civil rights — if you believe it should be legal to fire and evict them and prevent them from marrying, adopting children and serving in the military and teaching in schools, leading congregations, etc., because of their status as sinners — then how can you justify not persecuting adulterers and suppressing their civil rights with equal vengeance?

    Unlike same-sex marriage, adultery is a real threat to “traditional” marriage. (I put quote marks around “traditional” because the wandering desert tribesmen who wrote the Old Testament 4,000 years ago were polygamists, including Father Abraham. But then again, so was the grandfather of the apparent 2012 Republican Party presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, who lived in Mexico with his five wives.)

    Adultery is a prime cause of divorce, which leads to single-parent homes, which in turn contributes to poverty, poor health care for children, juvenile crime and a host of other social ills. And whether you’re religious or not, adultery is immoral. Cheating on one’s spouse is implicitly lying. The cheating partner is also breaking his or her marriage vow, which is a solemn social contract.

    If you support efforts by Christians and Mormons to rewrite state constitutions as well as the U.S. Constitution to make it illegal to be gay based on the law in the Bible — in other words, converting our democratic republic into a theocracy like Iran — then you must also endorse the punishment meted out to gay people in the Bible:

    Leviticus 20:13: “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.”

    But, to be fair, you should also advocate that adulterers receive the punishment proscribed in the Old Testament for their sins, which is death by stoning.

    But why go to all that gruesome trouble when rounding up gays and adulterers and sending them to gas chambers would be so much more modern and efficient?

    Just kidding. But you see, StarrAnn, this is a slippery slope. If you go down this road toward theocracy, there are other punishments meted out in the Bible that could hit you closer to home. For example:

    Exodus 35:2: “Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.”

    Look, I personally, do not believe any of this nonsense. All I am saying here is that if you insist on reconfiguring American society so that sexual sins are punished by law, including the rescinding of civil rights, then do it fairly: treat gays and adulterers the same. You must also push to rewrite laws in order to enable employers and landlords to discriminate against adulterers and to deny them the right to remarry and adopt, prevent them from serving in the military and the rest.

    The challenge Christians and Mormons would face is that you will be going from persecuting and suppressing the rights of 3 percent or whatever of the country who are gay to persecuting and suppressing the rights of at least 22 percent of men and 14 percent of women in this country — so 36 percent of the adult populace — who admit to being unfaithful, including, arguably, 28 percent of Christians.

    Of course, we know that the holier-than-thou right is never going to go after adulterers with the same viciousness and multimillion-dollar war chests they deploy against gays. The real question is, when will the current generation of haters wake up — as their grandparents did after the end of Jim Crow — and realize they are on the wrong side of history? When will they move on from gays to some other minority group that is prime for their moralizing and bullying?

    Watch your backs, Latinos and Muslims!

  23. brad schubert March 7, 2012 @ 7:41 am

    queers should be shot

  24. Trish Ponder March 7, 2012 @ 12:46 pm

    Brad, why is that? Why should queers be shot?

  25. Just in ObservingU April 1, 2012 @ 8:43 pm

    @Jon and @Trish

    I just appreciate the way you articulate your ideas. In all honesty I’ve only read the first half of the blog above, but I like the styles you both used to bring your ideas to light.

    That’s all. good job

  26. Chromedome2000 April 8, 2012 @ 7:45 am

    I feel I must reply to this thread since there seems to be an abundance of ignoramuses posting in it.

    If you are a homophobe, then it’s obvious you possess latent homosexual tendencies you feel you must repress because those tendencies scare you. Unfortunately for you homophobes your comments make this painfully obvious. It must be terribly painful for you to have to repress these desires by striking out against something that can’t possibly affect your life in any way, shape or form and might just possibly make your life better if you would admit to yourself the homosexual feelings you know you possess.

    Homosexuality is a normal part of the human condition, always has been and always will be. Get over it.

    And to those of you playing the God card you need to take a good look at yourself and your actions. Your holier than thou attitude proves just how ignorant you are. Religion and the belief in God or any other supernatural entity are nothing but constructs of the human mind. Fiction for those of you too ignorant to understand that. You’ve allowed yourselves to be brainwashed by groups of people being supported by your blood, sweat and tears while they loll about in the money you give them confident in the knowledge you suckers will keep providing it to them.

    If any of this offends any of you that’s a good thing. But rather than succumb to your knee jerk reaction to reject everything you’ve read in this post do yourself and everyone around you a favor. Educate yourself! Read! Ask questions not only to other people but to yourself as well! Years of brainwashing can’t be undone in a single day, week or month. It may take years before you’ll realize just how ignorant you’ve been all along but in the end you’ll have done yourself and mankind a favor and become the person deep down inside you’ve always wanted to be.

    Religion and believing in God or any other supernatural entity IS the root of all evil. I suspect most of you know this already but are unable to overcome the fear that has been instilled in you by the years of brainwashing you’ve received. Only by overcoming your fears can you ever really be free. When you enter the realm of reality and cast off the ideas that you’ve been forced to believe you’ll finally be able to see just how beautiful and peaceful this world we live in could be. But if you don’t then the path you’ve been forced to follow will inevitably destroy you, your family and friends and all the beauty nature has provided us. We are animals plain and simple and must learn to live by nature’s laws. We’ve destroyed our environment and are consuming irreplaceable resources through overpopulation and ignorance of nature’s law. Nature always wins without exception. When any species destroys the environment and consumes the resources needed for their survival the laws of nature dictate that species will not survive. If you can’t understand the basic laws of nature then nature will discard you and extinction is the ultimate outcome. The outcome of our species is entirely in our hands, there is no external entity or force that exists to save us from our ignorance. The actions our species needs to undertake to save us from extinction are obvious and the belief that some imaginary entity or force exists to save us from ourselves is certainly not one of them.

  27. Joe June 4, 2012 @ 12:25 pm

    I don’t hate gays. I hate the fact that gays eat up way too much of our time and treasure comparatively speaking and that gays put the health of this society second to their own selfish desires. Be gay, leave me, my children, and my society out of it. Yes, it disgusts me to think about “what you do” but I don’t really care what you do…so long as you don’t try to convince my children that “what you do” is as normal as “being left handed”…or as normal as two heterosexual people being married. It’s not. Benefits accrue to married couples because they make the sacrifice to bring up this societies next generation.

  28. Jon June 4, 2012 @ 2:08 pm

    Yes, you do, Joe. Yes, you do.

  29. Trish Ponder June 4, 2012 @ 6:24 pm

    Uh-oh Joe. I’ll have to let my friends Cathy and Warren know that they’re not normal. Cathy was almost 60 and Warren was in his early 70s when they married a few years ago, with no intention of bringing up society’s next generation. On the other hand, you hold good news for my boss and her female partner, who used a surrogate to have their son. I’ll let them know that, according to you, benefits are accruing to them.

  30. barbara June 5, 2012 @ 10:49 am

    Why do people want to prevent gays or other minorities from having the same freedoms they demand? Not to long ago whites demanded blacks use their own buses, schools bath rooms. It seems barbaric now. But riots and killings were common. There are still those who feel any race but white are less than human. And they have their own relegious retoric to “prove”it.The fact that sexuality is not a choice.but what you are born with. Even a percentage of animals are gay.
    Now the same mind set is turned against the Gays. Why not allow them to join in marrages, if not in churchs, at least cival unions, let them have the benifits other couples have. Through out human history man has killed others that didn’t hold the same beliefs. Either relegious political, moral, or sexual. Today in the land of the FREE, There are those who believe they have the right to deny the same freedoms to others they DEMAND for themselves.
    If you asked the people who want prayer in schools If the non-christion prayers should be allowed.I have feeling they would object to facing mecca, and saying Muslum or any of the other great faiths prayers.
    This is like the right to lifers that are willing to kill to support their views.It is the same thing. The ones who demand their freedoms, are the ones most willing to deny others theirs.

  31. Christbearing King June 8, 2012 @ 6:11 am

    This is just sad.Poor America has no morals.So many people going against human nature and want to be respected for it.Why in all His wisdom would God create or whatever god others may believe in create man and woman,Give the man sperm and the woman eggs,make intercourse so pleasurable,and then have this happen.Go ahead america and satisfy your lust.At least this has not happened in Jamaica yet.I am lucky its okay to kill these people out here.We may be a sinful nation but we are nothing compared with america’s vile.

  32. Jon June 8, 2012 @ 6:31 am

    So, Christbearing King, since you are a supporter of overturning civil law and replacing it with a theocratic dictatorship based on biblical law, we assume you support killing adulterers, too. The sin of adultery is forbidden in the Ten Commandments (which being gay is not), and Leviticus 20:10 sentences both parties in the adultery to death.

    You also must support the death penalty for working on Sunday, which is also forbidden in the Ten Commandments and for which the punishment is also death, according to Exodus 35:2.

    The Bible is full of sins, great and small, for which the punishment is death. You and your fellow democracy-hating theocrats can’t have it both ways.

  33. Arizona Charlie June 26, 2012 @ 9:03 pm

    I’ve known quite a few gay people in my life as friends or acquaintances. But, of them all, not one functioned as normal members of the community. Not one was a contributing member of the community, beyond their own gay-centric focus. Some were generally nice people, but completely unable to assimilate into society in any meaningful way.

  34. Jon June 27, 2012 @ 3:14 am

    Arizona Charlie – I’m not exactly sure what you’re getting at here, but as an exercise, if you substitute either “black,” “Indian,” “Latino,” “female,” or “Asian” etc. etc. for the word “gay” in your comment, you’ll understand why everyone thinks you’re a bigot.

    It’s likely that “assimilated” gays are all around you but you don’t know it, and that they see you for what you are and see no reason to be a friend or acquaintance of yours.

  35. Jacob July 24, 2012 @ 9:14 am

    For those of you that say being is not a choice then you are wrong. I just so happen to have a friend at college who started out straight. He was hitting on girls and dating them and whatever else. And then for whatever reason he chose to be gay. So who wants to try and turn that around into him being born gay. Oh and bye the way he lost his virginity to a girl.

  36. Jacob July 24, 2012 @ 9:20 am

    And i meant to say being gay. And by the way. You gay rights supporters are just as exclusive as anti-gay rights supporters. Like with the issue in the article above. What doesbit matter that chickfila is anti gay. That doesnt mean you break partnership with them because that just proves that you are just unaccepting as they are.

  37. Jon July 24, 2012 @ 2:09 pm

    Jacob, please tell us about your experiences choosing to be straight — and, please, spare us nothing.

  38. Bustnloose July 25, 2012 @ 7:04 am

    Due to the liberal media the gay and lesbian population has been over estimated; and why not? You have a President that lies and has no regard for law, just a Marxist agenda he learned at Columbia where he worked there as a janitor. 3.5% is about right. This is all about perception and not reality. Haven’t we been in a recovery since 2010? $440 miilion was used to fight the lies and to save a society. No homosexual couple should be allowed near children let alone adopt. Now it’s time to visit Chick-a-Filet.

  39. Buck Banks July 27, 2012 @ 4:49 am

    Hey Jacob: You’ll be gratified to know that July is Heterosexual Pride Month. Sorry to inform you with only five days left to celebrate, but check your local listings for Hetero Pride events near you!

  40. Buck Banks July 27, 2012 @ 4:51 am

    Hey Jake” It’s OK to be unaccepting of bigotry. Actually, you’re supposed to be unaccepting of people who unaccept other people for any reason other than the fact that they unaccept people in an unaccepting way. Does that now seem acceptable to you?

  41. Buck Banks July 27, 2012 @ 4:53 am

    Oooh, please tell us the story of how your formerly straight friend “lost his virginity to a girl” and how that made him choose to be gay. BTW, what did you “choose?”

  42. Mark Master October 16, 2012 @ 12:48 pm

    Let’s get something straight (no pun intended.)…
    Just because someone disagrees with your point of view doesn’t mean they HATE! Where are you people getting that from? So, if I’m a Democrat, I HATE Republicans? It’s just to cliche’ to call everyone a HATER, because their opionion doesn’t match yours. So just stop that. Thanks.

    Another point. From my point of view, the main folks being “upset” at anyone not supporting a Gay Marriage law, are…wait for it…. STRAIGHT! This is what we call “Political Correctness”, or in the old terminology, “sympathizers”. Except now, they’re ANGRY sympathizers.

    Lastly, you sympathizers are LONG-WINDED! Take a break, and chill.

    I hope I’ve left you with some food for thought. So, disperse and you don’t need to thank me. I’m done.

  43. Mark Master October 16, 2012 @ 12:52 pm

    Oh, one more thing. I invite discussion.
    So, go ahead and comment on my comments.

    I’ll be long gone, and onto other websites by then.

  44. Madison October 16, 2012 @ 3:31 pm

    Okay, bye.

  45. Chris October 18, 2012 @ 10:17 am

    When I went through puberty I could not believe I was attracted to boys, but I was. I thinking homesexuality was a choice and psychological in nature was in denile and told my self “oh no I am NOT a homosexual’ but those attractions to men did not go away and by the time I was 15 I had learned the hard way and accepted it but never told anyone. When I was 25 someone told me “you have to ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart and be your Lord and Saviour and make you born again if you want to go to heaven” They did not know I was gay. I said “How do you do that?” they said just repeat this prayer after me ” Lord Jesus come into my heart, be my Lord and Saviour, make me born again, give me the grace that you provided on the cross so I can go to heaven when I die and fill me with the Holy Spirit” I said that prayer and Jesus did everything I asked him to. Thats how I found out He is real and so is his grace. It did not change my sexuality at all. So later I was doing some research about these so called verses in the bible against homesexuality. Having read the old testament 3 times and the new testament 7 times it did not seem to line up with the spirit and intention of the bible, which is to show man that anyone who accepts the grace Jesus made available on the cross(like I did when I said that prayer) goes to heaven and anyone who dose not goes to hell. I found out that in the original Hebrew of the old testament and the original greek of the new testament that those verses against homosexuality were not against homesexuality at all. They were translated that way by haters to look like they were. Aha! that is a lot more like the Jesus and God I know. The truth is 10% of most species on earth appear to be gay only mating with the same sex, and science has figured out what causes people to be gay. It is things that can happen to us in the womb combined with genes that run in families. The Old testament prophet of God David was bisexual and was married to both the kings daughter and the kings son. He kissed the kings son and got an erection the bible says. God put another male prophet of God in a relationship with another man. Two female prophets of God Ruth and Naomi were lesbians who were in a relationship with each other. Remember Jesus said dont judge others, unless you can walk miles in their shoes and that only God should judge. He also said
    “Do onto others as you would have them do onto you”, and “Love your neighbor as yourself”. Let me ask you a question. In this day and age of jet airplains and the internet is’nt everyone your neighbor?

  46. Ted October 24, 2012 @ 8:54 am

    Here’s the deal. And after reading all this it would seem obvious to all. Just because someone disagrees with an opinion or your way of life they are labeled as “haters”. Being able to call someone a “hater” tends to justify your position because in most of the populations eyes, hating is wrong. There are extremists in every population on both side of issues in every walk of life. As a society, this is something we will never change (unfortunately).

    OK, I am now open to your reticule. Bring it on.

  47. Anthony October 28, 2012 @ 8:27 pm

    Ted,
    It is wrong to hate. Sadly, it’s all over the Bible where it teaches not to hate people…even though people use the Bible to spur hatred. Anyway, hatred towards a person is wrong.

    To address your “haters” comment, it’s true. In this case, trying to oppress a group of people who aren’t harming anyone is hatred. Its not like the people talking are disagreeing about what brand of soda is best. There’s a fundamental disagreement about human rights. So yes, a person who is being oppressed is going to call the oppressor a ‘hater’. Or we can also go with ‘bigot’ if you prefer. If you truly feel a certain way, own up to it. Be proud to be a bigot, but don’t be a hypocrite saying you don’t hate when you do.

  48. Billa October 31, 2012 @ 8:23 am

    Reguarding your statement “You’d think Christians could find better things to do with $440 million than foment hate. You know, feed the hungry, house the homeless, heal the sick. That sort of thing.” I think your full of crap, your way of life is unnatural and can’t produce children therefore you would not be here if your parents were gay. If 100% of America turned Gay we would be in a problem. One question How much money are the gays spending to stop Americans from expressing their freedom of speech and forcing other third world countries to accept homosexuality.Why wont they spend it to feed the hungry, house the homeless and heal the sick.

  49. Bryan November 4, 2012 @ 11:13 am

    1. Not a choice,who would chose discrimination?
    2. Hate on both sides of this issue.
    3. Rights are not to be given out selectively.
    4.People are born gay or straight period!
    5You dont ever change orientation. You may go against your nature to try to conform. This never works for long and people get hurt.
    6 Love yourself and be honest.

  50. Matt Stone March 26, 2013 @ 5:44 pm

    “They claim it’s more like 2 percent — which prompts the question: If there are so few gay people, why all the fuss?”

    Because in the late 70’s the gay community realized in order to gain legitimacy for their perversion they would have to re-brand their lifestyle from one governed by licentious behavior to one of social victimization.

    Read “After the Ball” a book the gay mob considers their “gay manifesto for the 1990s,” the authors called for homosexuals to repackage themselves as mainstream citizens demanding equal treatment, rather than as a promiscuous sexual minority seeking greater opportunity and influence.

    The real tragedy of “After the Ball” is that the great result of this is not a party, but the complete rejection of the very moral foundations which made this society possible! Their agenda is as follows:
    1.) “Talk about gays and gayness as loudly and as often as possible.”
    2.) “Portray gays as victims, not as aggressive challengers.”
    3.) “Give homosexual protectors a just cause.”
    4.) “Make gays look good.”
    5.) “Make the victimizers look bad.”
    6.) “Get funds from corporate America.”

    It is “militant” because it requires the demonization of anyone who doesn’t agree with their policy of forced acceptance by denigrating anyone through pejorative labeling (i.e. bigot, homophobe, etc.) as a means of discrediting their opinion or any argument against gays or the gay lifestyle and SILENCING their opposition through character assignation.

  51. Angel Alicea April 23, 2013 @ 4:59 pm

    As a Christian, I believe gay marriage is wrong. However, we people live in a godless society that accepts what is sinful and wrong. I am not in any position to say that gay people CAN’T marry, but I am just saying that to do so would be wrong. God’s grace extends to all people, for all people fall short of the glory of God. Allowing this kind of thing to go on would only open the door to even worse things. I only ask the leaders of America to make the right choice.

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