84% of Murders of Whites Are White-on-White Crimes


Of white murder victims were killed by other whites, according to the Justice Department [PDF, p. 13]


  • SteveBM
    July 23, 2013 - 10:16 am | Permalink

    Title of your post is WAY WRONG, buddy.

    84% of white homicide victims were killed by other whites. That’s a true statement according to the study.

    93% of black homicide victims were killed by other blacks. Not sure why you conveniently left this stat out of your post? It was located directly underneath the data you felt the need to share and misappropriate in the title of your post.

    Since your sensationalist title is way off, I did the work for you. Here’s the “of all murders” data you misappropriated in the title…

    45.3% of all homicides committed by whites while whites accounted for 50.3% of the victims of homicide. (-5% offender/victim ratio)

    52.5% of all homicides committed by blacks while blacks accounted for 47.4% of the victims of homicide. (+5.1% offender/victim ratio)

    2.2% of all homicides committed by other races while other races accounted for 2.3% of the victims of homicide. (-0.1% offender/victim ratio)

    As a young, white male I’d like to thank you for showing your true colors of ignorance.

    • July 23, 2013 - 5:07 pm | Permalink

      Buddy, the point is that 84% all murders of white people are committed by other white people. We need to get our own house in order before we criticize other races for having unacceptably high rates of intra-racial murders.

  • SenoritaBonita
    July 24, 2013 - 12:19 pm | Permalink

    @Steves BM
    fOx snooze and other neoliberal media organization continue to pontificate on the 91% of blacks are killed by other blacks.
    So why are you upset by the title and the percentage shown in this title?

    As a person of color I thank you for displaying
    the traits of an ignoramus

  • Kollin
    August 1, 2013 - 9:30 am | Permalink

    @ Jon, you do realize that the white population is 5x higher than black population. Somewhere around 230 million for whites as opposed to 42 million for blacks. You do realize that right? the funny thing with statistics is every one wants to zero in on 1 key number. But there is much more to it than just one number.

    @SenoritaBonita, thats a link to something from 1999. 12 years ago? I can go back 50 years ago and show you worse #’s than that.

    Some things that have changed over the years. Number of murders per year have dropped over the past 20 years. The number of blacks killed by blacks has remained consistent. Number of whites killing whites even with 5 times the population has decreased. The number of White on black murders, crimes violent crimes has DECREASED. # of black on white crimes has remained consistent.

    I think Jon is upset about the same thing as I am. Black community since this Treyvon Martin thing likes to throw out a stat or a number here and there and act as if that is the only stat there is. But there is always more to it.

    • 21notes
      July 11, 2016 - 6:41 pm | Permalink

      This what is true regardless that anyone White on here wants to own up to, Whites are the most visious killers ever to be born on the face of the earth!, your race wipe out the natives and now you claim a land that is not yours telling others you’re taking back your country, Whites dropped bombs on Blacks In Philadelphia killed thousands of Black people who were light years ahead in going green who were living above most whites, in Oklahoma Whites including the police bomb and killed and destroyed Black Wall Street, Whites who were and still are members of the KKK have killed millions of our people lynchings, that doesn’t include all the Mexicans and Japanese including the Vietnam wars and innocent Iraqis not to mention 4500 innocent young service men sent to a fake war, if blacks are killing I don’t condone it but it was learned from you the white man of destruction! You only feel pain when one of yours is killed, here recently Dillion roof killed 9 Blavk people yet we are to cry our eyes out about the man most recent Black who served in the ongoing wars no doubted suffering from PTS…Still he was blown too pieces while Dillon Roof mass murderer went to get A Whopper taken by a KKK police officer, you tell me on here reverse this situation and tell me yalls ass wouldn’t be jumping up and down and that black policeman he wouldn’t be working today, I added this to say if we have black on black crime it is because White Racist in charged have devised plans how to starve our communities of economical benefits in more ways than one causing proverty and destructive minds and behaviour , yes it is the color of your White skin that is too blame!

  • Marion
    August 1, 2013 - 8:14 pm | Permalink

    Your population statistics i.e. number of white population being 5 times more than black does not add credibility to your argument. Percentages would remain relatively stable even if the populations increased. On the surface, the argument sounds credible; math says otherwise. Your “Trayvon thing” comment indicates your stance, as it sounds dismissive. Fact is, Zimmerman had a gun;consequently,young man is dead. Guns and poor judgement don’t mix.

    • Tameia Dale
      March 24, 2016 - 6:31 pm | Permalink

      Exactly, some people don’t understand how statistics work. Pitiful.

  • August 4, 2013 - 1:23 pm | Permalink

    @Kollin I do realize that just 13% of the US population is African-American, so even if 100% of black people were killing each other, the number of deaths would be far fewer than the actual number of whites killed by other whites.

    But do you realize that suggesting that either of these murder rates is based on race rather than sociological factors and other circumstances is, in fact, racism of the vilest sort?

    August 24, 2013 - 1:18 am | Permalink


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  • Honestly
    April 30, 2014 - 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Cave n!@@ers are in denial about their savage nature. These neanderthal apes are their own worst enemy. Cave n!@@er on cave n!@@er violence is prolific in this country. These mayonnaise monkeys fixate on non whites because they can’t deal with the hideous truth about their own dysfunction. They should have never been let out of the cave of Europe.

    • Tameia Dale
      March 24, 2016 - 6:33 pm | Permalink

      Psychotic! Are you on meds?

    • Tish
      July 17, 2016 - 2:19 pm | Permalink

      Ignorance at its finest

  • Lolo
    August 19, 2014 - 4:05 pm | Permalink

    you do realize most murders are by people with some kind of relationship weather it be friend husband wife etc. so stats are worthless. Most black people know other black people most white people know other white people. How about let’s eliminate people on people crime.

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  • August 20, 2014 - 11:20 pm | Permalink

    Lolo, I completely agree that most murders are committed among people who have relationships, but the conservative meme is that most black people are killed by other black people, as if the same were not true of most Chinese people, etc.

  • Donn Johnson
    December 11, 2014 - 7:53 am | Permalink

    PEOPLE murder more PEOPLE within their own race.Both races murder their own more than they murder each other.Both races have the capability to love and to hate,to be peaceful and to be violent.THE END.

  • Bad Stud
    March 12, 2015 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    “But do you realize that suggesting that either of these murder rates is based on race rather than sociological factors and other circumstances is, in fact, racism of the vilest sort?”
    Is “other circumstances” a hint of genetic predisposition? There are only a handful of majority black countries with a homicide rate of less than 6 per 100,000. The homicide rate for American whites is the same as Norway and Ireland.

  • MEL
    March 28, 2015 - 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Denial, ignorance or both. Many Whites are so concerned about race preservation. I have no problem with that whatsoever. With those whom are solely concerned with this self preservation, it is truly a puzzle to me as to why you concern yourself with the rate of Black on Black crime. Perhaps you should be happy with that statistic. On the other hand, you should be very, very concerned with the rate of White on White crime. Based on 3000 white victims, 2500 are victims of other Whites. Yet when you encounter a Black or Minority in your vicinity; you immediately enter a defensive mode. Regardless of demographic populations, more than 8 of 10 White victims are victims of White offenders. I am ashamed of the Black on Black crime rate as well as the Black on any race crime rate. Perhaps the finger pointing Whites (not all Whites) should examine their own racial violence issues.

  • Jim Bering
    October 11, 2015 - 8:00 am | Permalink

    I would like to see where people are getting the stats for white murderers since the DOJ lists non-black hispanics as white. I don’t think the true numbers are readily available and I don’t believe that is an accident.

    If you are white ask yourself this question: How many people that you actually knew were murdered? Most white people are going to answer that question with 0. Ask that same question to blacks or a hispanics and you will probably get a list.

    • Tish
      July 17, 2016 - 2:21 pm | Permalink

      Ucr.fbi.gov please do your research

    • Ann
      August 3, 2016 - 11:36 am | Permalink

      I would like to see where people are getting the stats for white murderers since the DOJ lists non-black hispanics as white. I don’t think the true numbers are readily available and I don’t believe that is an accident.
      If you are white ask yourself this question: How many people that you actually knew were murdered? Most white people are going to answer that question with 0. Ask that same question to blacks or a hispanics and you will probably get a list.

      That is an interesting fact. However, have you stopped to think about the fact that non black hispanics are
      indeed half white, and some are mostly white? So, why can’t they fall under the same ethnic group?
      I was recently informed by correctional officers working in the state of Georgia that the prisons they work in list all incarcerated whites as caucasian, and all non-whites as black. That alone can make black numbers appear higher than they really are.
      Additionally, I am genuinely confused when I hear or read white people speak of genetic predispositions for violence.
      I am a history teacher, and I have yet to study one single ethnic group that compares to Whites/Caucasians/Europeans when it comes to violence.
      I have yet to hear of any group other than whites who were disturbed enough to create weapons of torture. Your history is both monstrous and barbaric. You should be the last people to speak on any groups behavior if you are not first addressing your own. Now, I can understand how that may be a hard pill to swallow, but it is a fact.
      Read about the Germans in Nahbibia before WWII. Read about king Leopold in the Congo. Read about the Portuguese in Brazil. Simply read!
      Then, research what Africa was like before European colonization. It wasn’t the same. Europeans worked extremely hard to divide and conquer the Africans. What we see now is a result of what Europeans put into action. Have you ever seen Hotel Rwanda? Read the history and the very strong role Europeans played in it.

  • May 11, 2016 - 1:55 pm | Permalink

    These stats are very revealing. I am an African American activist in Los Angeles and I continually use these numbers when I testify in front of the L. A. Board of Police Commission and the L. A. City Council. Whites murder whites and blacks murder blacks. There are tens of thousands of lilly whites towns all over America that are considered. Gun em down drug runners town with millions of white people in them and no blacks or latinos in them. Biker gangs etc. This is where many of the white on white murders happened. Contact Mr. Jenkins at jpc4559@yahoo.com.

  • Ann
    August 3, 2016 - 12:04 pm | Permalink

    I’m sorry for lack of quotes. I first responded to Jim Bering’s comment, and next to Bad Stud’s comment on genetic predisposition.

  • Dwight
    August 12, 2016 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Ok, I’ve seen all these percentages. I’ve seen all the numbers for blacks being killed (by police or other blacks). The one number that eludes me is exactly how many white people are killed by whites each year. No percentages, I’m looking for a number. Anyone care to help?

    • Candace
      September 1, 2016 - 2:28 pm | Permalink

      Its very sad that most studies and stats have a very high concentration on black people who commits crime. However, there is crime within every demographic. However, it is some white people who love to have that superior attitude or complex even when it comes to crime. For example, this article is about white on white crime being at 84%. But, it is always a white person, who can’t stay on topic and have to bring in the black crime state, as to say, “yea, we are killing each other at 84%, but at least our percentage is lower than the black crime stat”. Anyway to belittle the black community, they will take it. But that’s how America was built, blacks have always been treated as 2nd class human beings and will always be looked upon as that. However, black people are strong, resilient, and brave. they will outlast stereotypes, and racism.

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